If anyone has Joan J plants available for sale please let me know. Thanks!
Even Driscollās says they have a 1-2 day end user shelf life (and that is without washing them before transport āthey are handled only onceā); the problem is most are coming from CA to the East Coast and in spite of forced cold air and refrigeration, they dont last long under these conditions. All the more reason to grow your own.
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So Iām looking at Double Gold, it has a description of suckers freely, is this a good thing or bad thing.
If by suckers they mean what I call āroot shootsā that is a good thing if you want to spread them around. You can easily propagate from root shoots. Turn 3 plants into 100 in a few years.
My Heritage Reds root shoot pretty aggressively and I have propagated them and spread them around all over my place. It looks like Joan J is going to be quite aggressive at root shooting tooā¦ If so I will mass produce them too.
As long as you have your beds in a area where you can mow around them, no problem.
You just keep the stout canes you want and (off with the heads) on the others.
If you are growing in a containerā¦ probably no worries there either.
Here you goā¦ a nice pic that shows āsuckersā or root shoots.
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Thanks @TNHunter, I will only grow them in container, but I hope they donāt spread for some reason.
@SoCalGardenNut ā¦ i would think in a container they might spread over to the edge and then shoot up. In the spring when just buddingā¦ dig them out and plant in another containerā¦ keep it or give to friend/family.
The JJ ā¦ I planted this spring has 3 root shoots now.
Next springā¦ i will dig those out and plant them somewhere else. Might give them to my daughterā¦ and grand-daughter.
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Sorry Iām the only nutcase here who tries to grow berries in this kind of neighborhood.
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I have good news. Joan J primocane crop is very impressive. They are consistently extra large as well. I donāt think I have seen raspberry this big. Hopefully in a few years I have other varieties to compare it to.
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what would people say is the best overall tasting raspberry is? Also, what would people say the best tasting spineless or almost spineless raspberry is?
It depends on your location, but i like Joan J, thornless, I have a very small yard and it helps not to be scratched when I walk around.
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My favorite is Jewel (black) and my kids like Anne (yellow); yellows and blacks are much less productive than reds (cascade gold may be an exeption)
Reds - we have grown Caroline, Heritage, Himbo Top, Jaclyn, Joan J, Poland, Polka, Preude and Encore. If I had to pick one it would be Caroline but they are all good esp if they have sufficient sunlight and good soil
Taste is subjective and I would rather have more (highly productive) and large (easy to pick) even if the cultivar isnāt the top for taste (and to me they are all good)
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My favorites for taste are Killarney, Prelude, and Encore. Killarney and Encore are floricane only, which has been a problem with Encore, since itās suffered winter die back I think three out of four Winters for me. I do like my raspberries on the tart end of things though. Raspberries that are just sweet donāt really do it for me.
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Anyone growing Double Gold, can I confirm that this variety is pretty short, I donāt need to stake them.
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We have ours on a V-trellis and they can get tall once established (both parents are āredsā see below); the patent calls it a āred raspberryā but I think of it as more of a yellow
Double Gold is a Cornell cross per patent below:
Graton Gold is a yellow sport of Heritage, so that is why; itās story is pretty interesting (per patent)
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I love Himbo top but one of its minor negatives is it is a little more susceptible to Botrytis mold (gray mold) if you have a lot of rain. VT has had a ton recently with a lot of flooding so we are seeing above avg Botrytis (and mostly on Himbo top vs the others we have); all raspberries are susceptible to this but just know with Himbo top, you should pick them more frequently when it is really wet and not let the fruit sit on the canes; they are not as forgiving (but still super productive and huge) in really wet weather
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/sunguard-3-8-in-fiberglass-rod-post
I have lots of raspberries staked with these fiberglasss rods ā¦ available at our local TSC store. They are not that expensive and last.
If or when my raspberries grow taller than that 4 ft rodā¦ i tip them. I really like them for raspbsrriesā¦ nice and neat. From a short distance the stake cant be seenā¦ just looks like your raspberry cane is behaving nicely all by itself.
I am converting my vtrellised canes over to the rods. To me it just looks a lot better and it helps me not allow them to get over crowded.
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That seems like a good idea, I have edible gardening, I better make them look good.
I found Joan J on sale on the Menards web site for $5. Since not too may online nurseries have them or currently shipping, I decided to give it a shot and order 3. Itās probably not optimal to buy plants and have them shipped in the middle of summer but I figure itās worth a try at that price. Shipping add about another $12.
https://www.menards.com/main/outdoors/gardening/seeds-bulbs/fruit-seeds-bulbs/raspberry-joan-j-fruit-bulb-1-count/20-2817/p-15521289818459144-c-3289655539443632.htm?tid=5002643101506174785&ipos=5
I have a few unknown gold volunteers in the yard, the fruit tastes very sweet but they are impossible to pick due to their crumbliness. Do you any golden variety without crumbling fruits.
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