We’re expecting high heat later this week in NoVA so I’ll wait a bit and reorder them from Amazon per your recommendation. I saw them before on Amazon but never thought of buying plants from there.
What exactly is double cropping?
Josephine is a sister of Anne; however, Josephine is a red and Anne a yellow with the same parents
It is a lower yielding, less productive, later version of Caroline, so makes sense not many people carry it. I think Nourse Farms stopped as well. The patent says it is bigger than Caroline but then it also says Josephine is the same size as Anne (which makes sense) and Anne has been on the smaller side for us
Double cropping is primocane berries in the fall and overwintering the canes to get a 2nd floricane crop early summer
2 crops on a single cane
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yeah i only mention it because many years ago i think on this forum or maybe houzz it was the ‘bees knees’…and everyone wanted them. I think there was a buzz about them not being true to type and its also disease prone.
If u want to do some real investigating try figuring out ‘English Thornless’
Its been grown by Michael of Edible Landscaping for 30 years. I talked to him about it but he keeps his cards pretty close to his vest… so the story ends there.
I however think that its Glen Ample or Glen Prosen. (and if so may be the only way to purchase it in the US).
For folks that live in hot climates like Z8/9/10 Itsaul is a thornless rasp also that thrives in heat.
Canby gets alot of attention for its thornlessness but i think its a junk plant… Grows really well but berries are small and tasteless for me…also crumbly.
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thanks
there is an UK variety I am looking for called Octavia; its name means 8 for August and it fills the gap between my double cropping floricanes and new primocanes coming since it fruits primarily during August
If I could have August filled, I would have a non stop supply from June through the 1st frost and would be very happy
Per MI extension
I dont know where to find it though but am looking
So no cutting back to 2/3? I’m in California, not sure they die down or not.
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Well we are zone 5, so once they go dormant, yes we prune back the top 1/3 where the primocanes fruited and the bottom 2/3 will make a floricane crop in the early summer the following year (then remove the entire plant since it wont fruit anymore)
This creates more space for sun and allows for more air movement which helps pollination and new primocanes coming up in the spring
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That certainly fits my experience of the Josephine I had. There was a lot of excitement here about it based on flavor and I added it, but was not impressed with the production. I was entirely sure what I had was true since the vendor had shipped me some incorrect plants as well, but that description makes it seem like what I had was right. I’ve removed it and don’t miss it.
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I put the whole bowl in the freezer. Maybe it’s my luck but they all separated easily as I pour them into another bowl after frozen. The top ones were completely loose. The bottom ones need a little bit of shaking to become loose.
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@SoCalGardenNut … i love my doublecrop raspberries…
On pcanes on HR… in the fall… nornally August to November… i get fruit (on the top 1/3 of the pcanes). This fall crop sort of trickles in slowly over months.
Then in the spring i prune that top 1/3 off… after it fruits it dies… so prune that off.
Then after over wintering that bottom 2/3 of the canes produce a big crop for me in the spring… normally mid may to mid june… lots of berries.
Once the botttom 2/3 fruits in the spring… they are done… and you take them out…
When you take them out your cane crowns should already ne sending up pcanes for the next fall… and then spring crop.
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our kids would highly recommend raspberries & whipped cream; there wouldn’t be any around to freeze that way since they get eaten so quickly
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I think they taste horrible when they freeze. I bought a large frozen raspberry type before, they are to make compote.
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Bring this thread up to say I don’t do anything to my raspberry plants, they are tipping by themselves, but I’ve been harvesting a cup every day. I also decided to remove my a Hybrid Gigantea rose Emmanuella de Mouchy in this corner, which means I have more room to plant more raspberries. I like to tuck them in a corner so I don’t feel like they are grappling me when I walk by or something. Plus it seems like they have no pests except for the butterflies, but squirrels don’t go for them, am I correct?
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Hi,
When you say they are “tipping by themselves,” do you mean the primocanes are full of fruit and they are bending over because of the weight of all the fruit and they are not currently supported by a trellis?
“tipping” usually means cutting the top 2" off the primocane so that vertical growth will stop and it forces the cane to make lateral growth and increases yield; for example, I have Jewel (black) and like it a lot; I always tip the primocanes so it will increase lateral cane growth, which will lead to a larger floricane crop the next summer. when you tip, you need to do it early enough, so the plant has enough time to grow out the laterals. Tipping in Oct for me would be useless.
raspberries have a lot of pests - it is a function of how many you have, how long you have had them, and what else is surrounding them (e.g., wild raspberries). if you like them, many other animals (big and small) will also. Squirrels, chipmunks, birds, rabbits, etc (my dog even took a handful this am)
from CA extension:
https://ipm.ucanr.edu/agriculture/caneberries/
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Yes that’s what I thought tipping is, when they are done fruiting I’ll cut some back because they are very messy right now. They are tucked behind a tree.
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I’ve never noticed any mammal or bird pests going after mine, but there’s plenty of insect pests.
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Yes, I’ve seen worms, but I’m counting on my praying mantis, there’s an army out there. They love these little moths.
I planted two small Joan J raspberries in a pot earlier this spring, these have been producing non-stop for last month. Definitely a high yielding variety and tastes good too.
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How big are the pots you put them in? I got a couple of thorny varieties coming next spring and want to keep them in pots too.