Nah- there will always be more interesting ones out there… And if there aren’t, it is time to start planting seeds to make some 
I’m particularly looking forward to trying Pan, 2nd/3rd Generation Dong, Tian Xia Di Yi, Hidden Gem, Jinsi 4, and Te Da Su Cui Zao.
Btw, Sophia also sent me a second generation Winter Delight. How good is the first generation of Winter Delight? Is there any other name for WD? @BobVance
Tony
“Zhanhua Winter Delight 2”? As far as I can tell, this is identical to Dong. At least, based on the fruit and when it ripens.
Yeah, I don’t understand how ‘Topeka’ and ‘Sherwood’ can be identical, either. ‘Topeka’ was around for decades before ‘Sherwood’ and Sherwood Akin sprouted it from a batch of seed he imported from China for cheap rootstock. He told me one plant was good enough to be introduced… [‘Sherwood’].
Is Topeka produce fruit without cross pollinated? If it is then what is the chance the seedlings are the same as the parent?
I’ve never had ‘Topeka’, Cliff was asking me about Menninger’s campus years ago where it was growing.
I imagine Richard could tell us more about the genetic studies method.
Bob,
That genetic study is really interesting! I’m guessing the Topeka fruit quality might not be great if it is the same or a close relative to Sherwood?
I would definitely take you up on your offer of Bok Jo scion next winter. It sounds like one I need to add! Hope you are successful breeding some acidity into some jujubes using Texas Tart!
@randyks
Do you know what type of jujube they experimented with out in Garden City?
No, that was interesting news to me about Garden City.
yeah, i also thought Prof Yao’s study was merely to group them together as “closely related” , and not necessarily genetically identical.
my understanding of identical is that all base-pairs are the same. I think already mentioned here that a human being has ~3 billion base pairs. If we hypothetically clone that human being and change just one base pair which causes sickle cell anemia, the “clone” will altogether be a different individual, and will be phenotypic with the sickle cell trait, whereas its “twin” will have no symptoms whatsoever.
anyway, for several years have been posting my qualms about v. booty as being similar to sherwood, but i have never had a self-rooted sherwood, except if maybe Mr Meyer used self-rooted sherwood for a rootstock on some of the grafted jujus i’ve obtained from him. I asked him about this over the phone but couldn’t get much info from him. Also mentioned that he sent me a self-rooted silverhill but he was clueless which i thought was not his norm considering his expertise. He sadly passed away soon after our latest correspndence and only then realized it was the reason why couldn’t eke out a meaningful conversation with him.
Anyway, my mistake was that i got lazy with my seeds and planted them directly on the ground, which may have been invaded by suckers from juju trees nearby, so the vegas booty i dug up may have been a self-rooted sherwood sucker from Mr Meyer.
anyway, just hoping would get to to the bottom of this, as from what have seen, TX Sawmill and Priest were lumped with the group as being “identical”. Priest when i had it, was a bit different from sherwood or vegas booty. Same with TX sawmill when it fruited a couple years ago.
forgot to say, some wayward juju roots can -and will-climb up the drain holes of one’s potted self-rooted jujus which would possiblycontaminate it with a sucker!
also, birds or wind-borne fruit-drops can contaminate your pots with seeds. One of my favorite new cultivar seedlings(Mimi) actually had one which could have easily mistaken for a sucker. Thankfully it still had its leaf-cotyledons when i found it, which was solid proof it was an outsider, and not a Mimi sucker.