Jujubes- Our New Adventure


#138

Bob,

My seeds are more yellow than yours but I think yours will be fine. I put them in a zip lock and stored them in the refrig. and I plan to grow them out in pots in early March. I also buried a bunch of seeds straight into the ground with the whole pits like stone fruis to see if they come up in the Spring for trial. Maybe Raf can input more on the seeds collection and storage.

Tony


#139

I managed to end up with four Honey Jar Seedlings from seeds last year in the fall.
I used the few seeds from my small tree which yielded a few fruits. The Honey Jar is very prolific for its size. On a two foot tree I must’ve ended up with about 25 seeds but most of them were empty. Now I have four seedlings growing in a five gallon container, I also gave one to my next door neighbor. I did not even refrigerate the seeds. Just cracked them with a hand vice grip. After sprouting in the fall the seedlings went dormant (I thought that they died) then came back in the spring.

These should be interesting to graft when they’re ready. I might even let them grow and see what kind of fruit I get.


#140

These Honey Jars are one year old from seed today.


#141

How do your two elongated Shanxi Li in the pic do? Have they ripened? Do they tasted like Shanxi Li?


#142

Sas,

I just put my HJ seed in the pot buried in potting soil. I will see if anything come out of it and how long it will take.


#143

When I did mine, it was almost immediately after eating the fruit. It might be getting late for outside, but not late for indoors. If they come out before the freeze and go dormant, leave them alone until spring. Out of eight, I lost three by spring time, still no too bad considering they all went brown.


Soil Tests in the time of Coronavirus
#144

I think you cracked open the seed, right? I just put it in soil (in pot) without cracking it. It is inside the door by the window.


#145

Thank You.

Just ordered a Massandra to put my mind at ease. It looks like if new varieties appear these might disappear,just like what happened with Winter Delight and Autumn Beauty a few years ago.


#146

Used a hand vice cracked the seeds open almost immediately after consuming the fruit and grew them in small individual 4" pots using Seed starting mix.


#147

If you don’t crack it open it will take forever. It might even need refrigeration, which means several months at best. But you must use extreme caution when cracking it open as not to damage the embryo.

When you crack them open you’ll be able to see how many are viable. You will find that many are not even viable, as much as 70 % could be bad seeds. That’s one reason I don’t buy seeds on eBay unless I know the seller is reliable and a grower himself.


#148

Ok. Cracking I will. Thanks for the suggestion.


#149

I got a pair of vise grips today (yes, I’m not the guy who has every tool, other than every gardening tool :blush:). Of course, I had to try it out right away and met with pretty good success (compared to before). I did 10 and got:
3 nearly perfect
3 slight damage
2 very damaged
1 complete destruction
1 shriveled (poor pollination?)

How damaged can the seed be and still germinate? Roughly how long should it take? I know, I’m being impatient by checking them again, only 4 days in (unless they are as speedy as beans…).

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You will find that many are not even viable, as much as 70 % could be bad seeds.
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I guess I got good pollination to have only 10% bad. When I destroyed twice this many the other day, I think there were only 1 or two shriveled ones, so this seems pretty representative. Maybe having a dozen (or more) varieties on the same tree helps with pollination.

There were actually 3 as of a few days ago on that graft. I ate one which had just started to color (maybe 15% brown), as there was a potential frost that night. It wasn’t bad (light, crisp, moderately sweet), but I need to let one ripen better for a good comparison. It looks like we got past the potential frost, so I’ve got at least ~8 more days, before it is forecast to get close again. I think that should be enough for both the elongated ones on the graft and the large one on the new tree to ripen.

Update- adding pic of pliers (Vise Grips). $19.97 for the pair at Home Depot. I like the loop at the end, which makes it easier to tighten than a knob. I slipped a spoon (a screw driver would probably be better) into it and used it like a lever, which was much easier on the wrists.


Any good ways to crack peach seed shells and recover seed?
#150

you implying that you don’t have autumn b and winter d? And that you’re worried it may no longer be available and that those cultivars are destined to oblivion?


#151

Thanks, Bob for the pic.

I will let the last few Shanxi Li hang as long as possible. I will use their seeds to practice cracking.


#152

I managed to finally get an Autumn Beauty, but not a Winter Delight. No nursery has it these days.
As new varieties become available, what’s available today at your local nursery might not be in five years, or might have a name change perhaps. Couldn’t find any literature about Massandra, so I decided to add it to my trees.


#153

oops, my reply to @snowjunky was actually for you… and quoting what @snowjunky posted as a possible lead to winter delight.


#154

Yes Thank You, that same generous member sent me some wood too, but with my limited grafting skills, I wasn’t able to get any grafts to take. I got lucky finding the last autumn beauty among Shirley’s last few trees before closing shop.
I’m eternally thankful to that generous member who tried to help.


#155

So surprise to find a Sugar Cane on the tree. It is so small, about the size of a cranberry or a small grape. No wonder I missed it all season :grin:

Here is Sugar Cane (0.1 oz) comparing to Shanxi Li (0.6 oz).
Honey Jar is a bit bigger than Sugar Cane, not by much.


#156

That looks too small to be a Sugar Cane. I hope you didn’t get the rootstock there, its not uncommon since the stock can easily outgrow the graft on jujubes


#157

Scott,

This tree I got from Burnt Ridge. I can still see the interstem grafting on it. I got SC and HJ from BR. Both are interstem grafted. I have a Shanxi Li from Tree of Antiquity. It’ s grafted directly to a rootstock, without interstem.

I hope my SC is not a rootstock. It’s the first fruit. My first HJ is bigger than that.