Jujubes- Our New Adventure

Bob,
I did not spray it this year. However, about 2-3 weeks ago 0, in the middle of a drought, I noticed a lot of jujube flowers esp. Honey Jar turned brown similar to your pic. These are not new trees but they are on raised beds so their roots are somewhat confined and cannot roam as freely as totally in ground trees.

I suspect my trees may need more water than an average inground jujube trees. I started watering each bed deeply about for twice. Since then, coincidentally, the browning of flowers have mostly disappeared.

Not sure what caused the browing but watering seemed to help.

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Yes, I thought I remembered that you had raised boxes. Probably a good idea for 1-2 solid soakings per week when everyday is hot and sunny.

I’ve had to do very few lawns recently, as the lack of water has made most not grow very much. But, when I stop by I sometimes water the jujubes. One site that is always dry (the trees there were 4-5’ after 3-4 years, vs 12’ tall after 2 at a different site) and I’ve been trying to water it at least twice a week. It gets good sun exposure, so maybe I can make it productive with a bit of water. The fast-growing site only got watered once, but it was a pretty deep one, as I assume the soil has decent water-holding there.

Today was the first rainy day for a while. In preparation, I sprayed fungacide on my pluots and peaches yesterday evening. Hopefully it had time to dry before the rain hit.

From one online source (iweathernet.com, which seems pretty neat), we had 2.7" of rain today at my house and as much as 3.7 inches at some of the rental properties. Almost a month’s worth in one day. So, I don’t think I need to water for a few days, even with temps in the 90’s.

Part of it could be the trees naturally becoming more productive as they get older, but I’m seeing fruit on trees that haven’t been productive in the past. There could even be a couple small ones on GA866, though I’m not holding my breath there…

Weather channel has a video on the next 3 months. Our area (Northeast in general) is expected to be much hotter than average in August, average in September and warmer than usual in October. Sounds like a good long season to ripen fruit!

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Bob,
We got some rain yesterday but not as much your area did. Glad to hear we will have a long stretch of warmer weather than usual. I hope the forecast is.

I have watered my jujube trees during this drought and they have responded well to it.

Here’s the full URL:

I think they are using radar info to calculate rainfall. I’ll need to set a bucket out next time to see how accurate it is.

Even though my area got 2.7-3.7", my parents only got about 1" an hour East. And it looks like 1-2 miles off the coast in Long Island sound there was ~4.5".

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My shanxi li today July 19…

My GA866 has a few of these on. Smallish still and somewhat pointy.

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I had my first vine ripe Honey Jar yesterday, pretty tasty but very small. This year I finally covered my jujube fruit and let them ripe properly, maybe they will taste better than in the past.

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I wish we had that much rain. We got not even half an inch. This year, rain seems to miss us the south, the east and the west. Sometimes only 4-5 miles away. It is very dry here this year.

Even the cactus are dying here…….

I hope those cactus will go to heaven that has a waterfall.

I can’t complain ,your area and Europe suffer more than I do here.

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My Shanxi Li aren’t as far along, but they are numerous. Yours look a bit strange to me- more like the shape of a Lang.

Many of my jujubes are showing more productivity than in the past. Even GA866 has a few fruit. My tiny fruit looks about the same as yours.

There is a large Vegas Booty graft on the GA866 which has even less fruit. It may have 1-2 tiny fruitlets, but it is hard to say. I don’t think it is the parent tree’s (GA866) fault, as it also has a Dae Sol Jo graft which is covered in fruit.

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Bob,

Looks like you don’t need to buy anymore jujube from China town anymore because all yours jujube trees are producing! Good work!!!

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Had my second vine ripe Honey Jar, I like this variety, this year this tree is prolific because I removed the big 4x1 pluot. It’s shading all the trees nearby.


I checked my record and I planted both of my Shanxi Li(from Rain Tree Nursery) and GA-866(from Tree Antiquity) in a spring 2021. Shanxi Li is more productive than GA-866.

Shanxi Li

GA-866

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Might still get a few when they first hit the market, as mine don’t really start ripening until late September (unless some start to ripen faster due to earlier set).

Last year I had almost enough jujubes to continuously eat them for 1.5-2 months. But, when speaking to my wife later, she was surprised by that, as evidently, I was often eating them between mowing lawns, sharing them at softball, etc, without them actually making it home. Or when they did make it home, I didn’t present her with a bowl of them :slight_smile: - I’d just have a couple quart boxes on the counter and expected people would eat them when they wanted them…

So, having more production would be good, both for the rest of the family and to see how well I can store them for later winter consumption (last ones from the fridge were eaten in early Dec).

By my count, I have almost a hundred trees (13 Honey Jars) in ground (not counting a number of small ones in pots from grafted root suckers and seedlings). Just over half the in-ground trees are at the rental properties. Eventually, I could do farmers market or something, but I think that is still a ways off. If I can find a way to consume them year-round, that would up the quantity needed by 5X+. And giving them to friends would likely be easier than FMs. But, that is getting ahead of things- first I need to grow enough for my wife!

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I found that storing them in plastic bags in the fridge was not good. They rotted after a couple of month. I think freezing them may be a way to go.

If any of you have a way to refrigerate them, please share your methods.

I posted about some Sugar Cane in the fridge for ~1.5 months in a ziplock. It was still edible, but I didn’t like what it did to the texture and there was an off-flavor (similar to what they (SC) had at harvest, but worse).

I’d be interested to hear if anyone else has a good way to store them. I think I saw that Tony was freezing them. I’m a bit skeptical that they would come out of the freezer crisp and crunchy, but am willing to test it once I have extras.

I also remember hearing about a special bag that one of the guys at the farmer’s market was testing out for apples. Something about selectively permeable? Writing this made me go look for the name (I had emailed him later to ask) and it is https://www.modifiedatmospherepackaging.com. I’ll need to take a deeper look there.

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These look exactly like Lang. Which nursery did you get it from?

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@kiwinut … i got my shanxi li and ga866 from OGW.

I bought a illinois everbearing mulberry from them… that when it fruited had white mulberries… obviously not a IE.

I would not doubt a nursery mix up being a possibility.

Bob,
If you buy those bags, let me know how well it work for your jujubes.

I have stored apples in plastic bags with no holes and closed them tightly in the fridge for months. This year some apples were stored that way until May, No issue. The apples kept in a good condition that way all that time. NOT jujubes.

I do have concerns about texture if I freeze them.

OGW is also the one that keeps mixing up Autumn Beauty and Winter Delight jujubes.

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@castanea and @kiwinut ---- found this on nuttrees.net (Englands Orchard) site…

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Yes… that does look like my (Shanxi Li ???)

Here (below) is what Cliff had to say about them… he is in KY just north of me, so hopefully if that is what I actually have, they will do well here.

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Lang - Extremely productive and has large pear shaped fruit, which is red when ripe. Best when dried and made into jujube butter, but it can be eaten fresh when red ripe or can be substituted for apples in pies. Dries well but we prefer it fresh. One of the most productive here.
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All the pics I find of Shanxi Li online… it has a more apple shape to it.

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TNHunter

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