Led grow lights - how to select

Yeah, peppers, sure. I wouldn’t recommend (drying that far)_ for anything else.

Dax

for trays i use shoe/ boot drying matts instead of buying the ones specifically for seeds trays. they are only $5 for the same size at walmart. they are heavy duty also.

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i grow all my plants in fabric pots that aren’t in ground. i have 3 tiben currants in 20gal. that will fruit for me in their 2nd year from a cutting. amazing growth in them. normally it takes 3 yrs. in ground before they fruit here. i saved a whole year by growing in these pots. they grew 4ft. in 1 summer!

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Great information you guys! I am more confident in spending some money on things when I hear that they actually work well for other people first. I really appreciate everyone’s input.
I am going to check out those pots. They sound cool.
Thanks!!

Do you plant the fabric pot in the ground then? The description said you can do so… Do you need to slit the bottom or sides, or the fabric really does not constrict outward root growth when planted at all?
I wish I would have see these before yesterday! Just bought some more supplies, now I want to try these. Seems like these would be great for melons/pumpkins that don’t like to be transplanted to begin with.

This is my first year using them so I can’t really say. I do know the roots are growing freely into the tray and into some other pots so I don’t think it should be a problem. Depending on what they look like I may try and slit them before planting. The material is pretty thin. I was thinking the same for melons. I’ve never started them indoors, but may try this year since I never get them to produce.

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I’ll have to look for those. My garden center sells the 1020 that are made from really heavy duty plastic. They’re about $5 too. I think Jump Start brand. I’ve been trying to pick up a few more every year to replace the flimsy ones that break after a year or two.

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Thanks Travis. I have only tried starting melons indoors once. They didn’t transplant well. They do OK here direct seeding anyway, unless we have a cool wet spring. Then the germination can take a long time, I lose seeds to rot or critters and have to replant. I want to try starting a few pumpkin varieties indoors, so I can get them to harvest by early Oct. I guess I don’t remember for sure, but thought pumpkins were finicky as well, being in the same family.
I like the looks of these fabric pots. So glad you shared that info, thanks! :grin:

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Below is a set of photos of the lone Indian Free Peach that germinated for me from last season’s pits stored in my fridge.

The series runs from FEBRUARY 7 to MARCH 7, 2020 (today) so it is as current and as actual as you can get.

I use the 4000 K LED FLEIT brand shop lights that I picked up at COSTCO. Interestingly one is 4000 K, 4000 Lumens at 42 watts and the other 4000 K - B, 3700 Lumens at 38 watts. Maybe the ones here with electrical skills can explain.

PLEASE NOTE in the 2-13-20 & 2-22-20 photo the ruler shows the measurements in centimeters not inches.

LAST WINTER (2019) I tried to grow tomatos to fruit under the same lights. The harvest was OK but the flavor was Ehh!. I don’t know if it was the lack of intensity of the light or other factors but I did not repeat the effort this winter. See photo of those at the end .

Also attached are the labels on the units.

Hope these prove helpful
Mike

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Heat is the key to good flavored tomatoes. If they mature at temps below 70F, flavor will be poor to very poor. A few varieties are exceptions and can mature decent flavored fruit down to about 60 degrees. Don’t expect much from any commercial hybrid variety. They don’t have the genetics for good flavor.

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@Fusion_power

Interesting, These were grown in a room near an outdide wall where the nightime temps were definitely under 70 and the rest of the day, if they eere above 70 then it was by a degree or two.
Temperature range never even entered my thoughts

Mike

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Interesting that this popped up as an updated topic… though the last post was back in March. I’m putting my lighting together for some indoor gardening, I’m using standard screw in LEDs (10-15W actual watts used per bulb) with dimes removed as well. I going to use vanity light fixtures to minimize the building/wiring, and to have a clean look. These are a good deal but I went with the 5 bulb fixtures myself.
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Project-Source-3-Light-18-in-White-Vanity-Light/3010105
Those sockets are About 6” apart, and two of those next to each other will give solid coverage.

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US $14.85 35%OFF | 1000W LED Grow Light Panel Full Spectrum Phyto Lamp AC85-240V EU/US Plug For Indoor Grow Tent Plants Growth Light

So I am looking into seriously improving the one tiny white grow light I keep on 24/7 under the stairs in my basement and moving operations to a larger area. The above link for aliexpress leads to a few options. Prior to reading through this thread (for a second time, the first was months ago with no idea what I was doing) I figured a Red/Blue combo would be the best available tech, but after seeing what you have all done, it appears that going to a hardware store and making a setup with the tops of LED single bulbs in the 60 watt equivalent range is probably the best choice for starting seeds. I also have a few avocados and other things I’d like to keep vegetation on over the winter if possible, but that is secondary to starting seeds and getting a head start on the summer garden. I’m not afraid to do my own wiring/metalwork/woodworking and can weld, so many options are on the table. I am not above spending 50 bucks for three pre-made setups from China though, and it might be well worth the price vs time invested. For reference these appear to be spec’d at 35 watts.