It may be worth your time to put those in the search bar and dm people who say theyre gfowing them
For example: Who's Growing Improved American Persimmons? Suggestions welcome! - #25 by parkwaydrive
And Who's Growing Improved American Persimmons? Suggestions welcome! - #30 by hobilus
At min thiught here is someone selling fruit dump https://threefold-farm.square.site/