You might be the first to give us an update on the fruit quality. Oh Yes should arrive today and I plan to plant it 1-2 weeks later. Hope your vine grows well.
Oh Yes arrived today. I think that it arrived in pretty good condition (6 day delivery). It is 14" high. I unboxed and watered it, and put it into a semi-shaded area for a few days to acclimate before planting it under a trellis.
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man, you know i tried muscadien grapes at the grocery store and it could be one of my least favorite things ive eaten. IS this a grocery tomato situation or is it just a really aquired taste for some? Cause they look so fun to grow
Edit: you know its occuring to me these might be like… wine grapes
Some varieties can be very gummy and flavorless. I’d suggest trying some of the best cultivars if you can (e.g. Fry, Supreme, Ruby Crisp) to see what they have to offer. If you don’t like those, muscadines aren’t for you.
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Hot August dog days are going into October in my area. I could not imagine planting vines in this heat. Hesitate with the fertilizer. I guess they would be okay if shade and water is provided though.
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Mine was virtually the same size, it splits very low. Would it be crazy to air layer the smaller split when I put it in the ground? Also, the spacing recommendation? Is it really 8-10’??? Everything I have read says 15-20’ and I was stressing if I should do 14’ or not!
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If it’s close enough to the base just plant it deep or mound soil around it. I don’t think that’s uncommon in viticulture to increase root mass, though I might be thinking of kiwis
Then cut off the second stem after it’s established roots
Hot August dog days are going into October in my area. I could not imagine planting vines in this heat. Hesitate with the fertilizer
80’s highs and 60’s lows here for the next 2 weeks, probably the next month. The plants will love it, roots will get going great in the next couple months before they slow when the soil temps drop. It’s just not the peaks and lows, it is the time the temps are at their peaks and lows, a month ago the temp was 80+ for nearly 24 hours a day, now it is in the 80’s for less than 12 hours, often much less.
I will be using organic fertilizers so they will be going in at time of planting, it takes much longer for them to be bioavailable than synthetic fertilizers.
Duh! Is that the way its supposed to be done? I usually planted the vine and then built the trellis or arbor over it. 
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I’ve never had grocery store muscadines. My experience is limited to the local wild population and 2 domestic cultivars I am growing. I can tell you that it is a fruit where ripeness matters. I didn’t think I liked my bronze cultivar…till I let it hang a while and soften and get some pinkish areas. My purple has to be nearly black to be very good. A church member I shared some with told me they don’t care for the grocery store muscadines because they usually taste underripe. I wouldn’t write them off based on grocery store version. I wouldn’t like strawberries or blackberries if all I knew were the ones from the local grocery store. Modern supply chains are incredible, but also have their limitations. Generally with fruit, the limitation is quality.
All that said, it could be your taste. My wife doesn’t really like them all that much. She also doesn’t care for Concord grapes. I like both far better than the seedless grocery store grapes that she likes. I don’t think it’s an acquired taste as much as just a flavor some folks will naturally love and others won’t.
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Unfortunately, my muscadines got your treatment….only I never got around to the arbor.
I have since decided that a simple trellis built today is far superior to a fancy arbor built…never. I did eventually put up a simple trellis, but not until after a few years of them languishing on the ground waiting for that grand arbor.
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Hmm, maybe a half trellis and half arbor design would be the best. The Geneva Double Curtain system has advantages but still does not keep the shoots from going to the ground. My arbor keeps the vines off the ground but took me about 3 months or longer to build. I know that I try to build things too complicated. Kiss theory.
I’m going to wait a little longer to plant. I just moved the Oh Yes to a little larger pot for the wait.
I like the taste of most muscadine varieties but some people don’t. My opinions are that many of the don’t have picked and tried a few half ripe wild ones. I also think that there is a tendency to compare the taste and texture to the table grapes that they purchase in stores. When all is said and done we all have different tastes and that’s okay with me.
It’s your choice before or after. I’ve done it both ways. In this case I have already removed an existing vine so the trellis is in place and waiting to be planted under.
well if anyone is on long island and wants to sell me a grape id buy it to give it a try lol. asian markets have these grapes a lot and was not a fan…
Might end up growing catawba or something instead
Flavor is always a subjective trait.
The grape breeding industry is attempting to combine the positive traits of the bunch grapes and muscadines.
Selecting grapes out of grocery stores as fruit is easy. Just go mainly by flavor.
Growing grapes on vines is a whole different ball game. Most (but not all) bunch grapes are notoriously difficult to grow chiefly because of diseases, varmints, insects, and certain climate concerns.
Muscadines on the other hand are much easier to grow because of high resistance to diseases, and not as appealing to varmints and insects. Disadvantages are tough skin and somewhat subjective flavor. They are confined mostly to the humid and hot areas of the southeastern section of the U.S.
Did yours not come with a tag as well? I had to replace my oh my and got an oh yes with it as well. Only the oh my had tags but the oh yes didn’t.
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I would have to say variety matters. I’ve had about 4 different varieties from grocery stores and on different continents as well.
Had some in Florida, they were okay but too seedy and the skin was too thick for me. Had to poke it with a knife before eating to help chew the skin off. Good but not great enough for the mouth work involved since my lower jaw is full of metal and extra chewing hurts.
Had some different varieties all over Asia and they were seedless and amazing.
Had some here in Washington from the stores and they were sour and not very good. Probably unripe but i never tried them again here from the grocery store and i never saw them being sold again since that one time as well.
I’m hoping these will be similar to my experiences oversees without me having to sit at the airport for 3 hours before sitting on a flight for 10-12 hours to experience some little funky balls of fruit lol
The only tag that I got was a paper stick on type that was on the plastic wrapping.
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