I can ask around locally too. Let me know the numbers and we can figure it out
The best know muscadine growers (Isons) manage the vine before it breaks out of dormancy pretty every year after it is established. This can be tricky in 7A. You will lose vines in April and May to late frost if you’re not careful. Don’t follow conventional wisdom from southern growers that says to prune in February or March. Wait until as late as you can before they wake up. Unexpected frost shortly after a prune is a killer in my experience.
The reason for managing the vine is to reduce fruiting spurs.They sometimes overcrop.
I would be interested.
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Ok, I’ll make a separate post when I get details from the wholesaler so we can discuss what everyone wants.
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Anyone find out about the size or weight of the berries? Gurneys gives no information. Are we talking Polk size, Supreme size, Razzmatazz size, oh my size…? How much does a mature vine produce (lbs)? They sure did a minimalist take on advertising.
Believe this is the patent for it which should answer any questions.
Productivity.—Medium; extrapolated and estimated yield=5.25 tons/acre.
Cold hardiness/winter hardiness/temperature tolerance.—2 vines planted in 2016 suffered no apparent winter cold injury after a low temperature of −2° F. in January 2019
Berry.—Size: Small to medium. Shape: Spherical. Length: ½″ to ¾″ mean is ⅝″. Diameter (width): ½″ to ¾″ mean is ⅝″
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That productivity is what bothers me. Heavy yielding muscadines can hit 12 tons/acre. Knocking that back to 5.25 tons is a hard hit for a commercial grower. They really need to get it up to at least 9 tons/acre to call it commercially viable.
Per Gurneys the yield of Oh Yes is High.
If you google search on Oh Yes muscadine yield per vine… you get this.
Oh Yes… vine produces well, with mature vines yielding 30 to over 40 pounds (or around 2 gallons)** of fruit per year, though yields increase as the vine matures from planting. Expect around 10 pounds in the first few years, growing to potentially 30-40+ pounds at maturity, with some vines even reaching over 60 pounds in ideal conditions, providing ample fruit for fresh eating, wine, or preserves.
That high yield may not compare to seeded tuf skin varieties… but hey… you can eat the whole dime very enjoyable experience.
With the seeded tuf skin varieties about half of the fruit is a thick tuf skin and hard seeds that you have to sort out in your mouth and spit out the large percentage of inedible stuff.
Nothing enjoyable about that. My wife and kids might eat 3 or 4 of those… then they are done. Too much trouble.
Me personally… I would be much happier with a seedless tender skin dime that I can eat the whole thing… that produces 30 lbs of fruit… than a tuf skin seeded variety that produces 60 lbs of fruit.
Doubt I will need more fruit than my Oh My and Oh Yes will produce… but if I did I could always plant another.
TNHunter
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My only concern is that thinner skin will lead to less pest resistance down the road. I dont mind the tough skin all that much. If the skin is comparable to Paulk or Black Beauty I would be totally pleased. But the seeds really are an obstacle to getting anyone to take them unprocessed. I’m impressed by the old timers who crunch them up and eat them. Far too acrid for me.
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Great info!
Interested in growing Oh My?
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Need less than 10 plants? Please order from Gurney’s.
I’m probably going to go with 15’ spacing.
I got my order from Gurneys Thursday evening… planted Oh Yes and Razzmatazz Friday.. it rained Saturday.
I planted Razz in a large container.. Oh Yes replaced my Isons muscadine out in my orchard. I have Oh My and Oh Yes out there now, trellised.
TNHunter
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Beyond sweet/tart and general flavor preferences, one thing that can be a deal-breaker for some is the wild/foxy/musky (and for some, semen-y) flavor notes. Not sure if that’s what made you hate the fruit or not? I don’t know if these are present substantially in Oh Yes, but it was present in the grocery store bronze muscadines I tried. That flavor was not present substantially in the grocery store Razzmatazz I tried. Similar wild/foxy/musky notes can be found in concord/labrusca grapes and some persimmons.
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Do you have any memory what the oh yes was labeled as from gurneys?
Gurney’s labeled mine as “Oh My” as received over a year ago. There was nothing else as an identifier on the label.
@snarfing.. I got a Oh My (seedless white) from them a couple years ago… and this spring got an Oh Yes (seedless black) from them.
As far as I remember they were labeled correctly.
It will be a couple years before I see fruit from my Oh Yes.
TNHunter
I have a razz going into its second year. It woke up later than my other gapes so i was concerned. But with these night time drops i prefer they sleep in.
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@busch83.. I got a Razz and Oh Yes from Gurneys this spring. They are both growing well.
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