@murky wow! A lot of fruits on very thin branches. How’s the shape of tree growing? Spread or straight up. Quality of fruit very good? Sounds very interesting. I saw them in nursery a couple times in the past however I don’t really know how easy to find the one to buy. I will looking for to get one. Thank you for recommendations Jafar.
It’s a 4 in one tree and I prioritized tasting the first fruit over shaping it. It produces some spread. It does get bugs and some splits, but I’d say at least half of the fruit are pretty clean, and that is without spray and not enough thinning. Not at uniform and clean as the nearby Nadia.
This is from 2020:
I guess Dave Wilson’s says it’s upright, but mine doesn’t seem moreso than Geopride:
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@ 4 in1 but only splash products well so I look for splash only. Maybe this way it will has better shape of growing too. Now none of nurseries available yet.
My little sweet treat does good for first year. I am so happy. Just see flavor Punch fluerry but harvest in September in California so I don’t think it works here. Rain too much in October, fruit no good anymore. You ordered your tree online?
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Wow!!!
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They all look good!
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Yeah Vincent, I don’t recommend Geopride or Emerald Drop based on how they’ve done for me so far. My Flavor Grenade on this tree seems runted. I’d like to graft it to its own tree, and will be looking for scion wood from one that is more vigorous, in case its the material from this one and not just its position and circumstances on this tree.
I got it from Raintree, long before their prices were elevated to double what others charge. It’s a Dave Wilson tree though, so probably available other places. I can provide scion wood winter 2023.
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When I do thin, I try to preferentially remove the damaged fruit, but you can see there are still some with spots, which I assume mean there’s a larva inside. Often the fruit still ripens and the undamaged portions still taste great. The damaged ones are also the ones that ripen first.
The 2020 picture is from July 17, this year’s picture is from July 11 (yesterday).
just finished lapins (bing+10) and lambert (bing+8) sweet cherries and had my first methley japanese plum (santa rosa -15), not quite ready, but within the next week
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Green Gage, Opal, Queen Victoria, Brooks, Richards, Oullins Gage, Rosy Gage, and Purple Gage are good European plums for PNW. Pretty much any good European variety that finishes before 10 September will do well in a PNW area that averages 1800+ GDD50. If you average less than 1800 GDD 50, The August and late July varieties would be your safest bet.
Other fruits:
I have gotten White Gold cherries that are as good as any Rainier I find at the supermarket.
Shiro, Black Ice, Redheart, and Superior plums are all very good. Shiro is an acquired taste for some, and has thickish skin. Black Ice needs a good Asian or Asian hybrid pollen partner, weighs in at 22+ Brix, and has a distinct cherry aftertaste. Redheart can go biennial, and Superior tends to overproduce from spindly branches.
Frost peach does very well if you stay on top of the curl and have good drainage. I am growing Spice-Z for the first time this year, and it does not have leaf curl yet. The red nectarine leaves are gorgeous, and I already want to do a Spice-Z/Hollywood 2-in-1 tree. I have Flavor Grenade, AU-Rosa, Candy Heart, and Tlor that have not fruited yet due to age or plum pocket fungus. Flavor Grenade, Tlor, and Candy Heart all appear to be compatible with Krymsk-1 rootstock, but time will tell as they are only in the second leaf.
The Krymsk-1 rootstock does very well in our climate and is known to improve size and Brix of some European plums(Queen Victoria is one of them). The rootstock is very sensitive around the time the sap begins to run. The plant will straight up die on you if you mess with it after the roots and buds become tender, but before it has put out new growth. It does not seem to be compatible with Nadia, Green Gage, or Black Ice; but I have not tried an interstem. Krymsk-1 rootstock goes off patent in January, and is supposed to be good for stooling.
Russet Pears do very well in PNW because the wet Spring results in more even russeting. For apples and pears, varieties that finish by 10 October are best. Jonagold is the best commercial variety for PNW, but is triploid and likes extra potash & magnesium post harvest to be consistently sweet every year. Gala & Fuji are tasty varieties, but not as consistently good as Jonagold. Gala is prone to sunburn, relatively slow-growing, and has to be pre-thinned early to achieve good size without over-thinning. I am getting my first Queen Cox this year, so I will report on that. There are many apple varieties that will do well here, but higher Brix varieties tend to crack when the September rain comes.
White Imperial and Swedish White currants are doing very well, and I harvested ~4.5 lbs of them yesterday. They will become seedless jelly.
Northland, Patriot, Bluecrop, and Chandler Blueberries are tasty and very productive in our yard.
Tayberry, Anne, Joan J., Prime-Ark Freedom, and Rubus ursinus are very good brambles.
Lattarula, Violet de Bordeaux, Ronde de Bordeaux, and Desert King are reliable figs.
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Thanks for the rundown on the fruits.
I’ve got Bavay gage I’ve grafted to Krymsk-1 and in 3rd leaf. Seems to be compatible, hasn’t fruited yet.
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@murky today I checked around and called Flower World nursery, no place have Splash. I might need scions to graft to my Nadia or a couple plum in containers later if possible. Thank you so much for your help Jafar.
I could graft it to a St. Julian sucker for you when the time comes, if you don’t mind a tiny tree.
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@murky yes please if convenient. Do you have to wait until winter time? I take care very good a tiny tree.
Keep them in container with good fertilizer.
Depends how careful we want to be related to the patent protection and such. I could collect scion in winter and graft in April, for instance.
We can PM.
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on the topic of splash, I got a bag of them at a stop on the hood river “fruit loop” last year around August 9 (an awesome tourist activity if you’re nearby). I wrote down “slightly tropical taste, a little sour, really sweet. good”. So I’m happy to hear it could work for me. I have it as santa rosa+14.
That’s about where mine are too. If there are any with lots of color, they probably have an insect inside, or otherwise damaged.
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I am happy the harvest time before raining season.
All my European plum trees, their leaves look so bad this year. Japanese cherry plum are better. So happy my new Sweat Treat fruiting on the the 1 planting year.
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For anyone not on their mailing list, I just saw an email from Burnt Ridge that says they are open for in-person plant shopping this summer. It’s a bit of a drive for me, but next time I head down that way I may check it out. Here’s the text from their email:
Many customers have asked us whether we will reopen to the public, and the answer is yes! During the summer months, we will be open weekdays from 9:00am to 4:00pm, and weekends from 9:00am to 3:00pm.
We have lots of potted plants to choose from, including blueberries, figs, elderberries, apple trees (including Monty’s Surprise), and so much more! If you have specific questions about availability, feel free to call or email ahead of time - if it’s not available now, we can take a preorder for fall or winter/spring pickup or shipping.
While it’s hard to accomodate drop-ins during our busy winter/spring bareroot shipping season, we’re happy to invite you to come by this summer to see the farm and shop for plants.
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I went there once,probably on my way to Raintree,before knowing about their visiting policy.They treated me nice and a lady showed me a little of what was available then,which was mostly Blueberry plants.She never mentioned about getting an appointment.It may have been seeing it later on the website.
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