Maybe people should research dehydrated/cooked paw-paws as a laxitive/cleanse 
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That’s interesting. Never noticed a shelf life issue with pawpaw bread. But I haven’t made a lot.
To me the flavor is lost, such that I would only make it if I had a ton of fruit and was tired of making other things with it.
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May be our recipe. It was more like a cake texture than anything - very moist. Flavor quickly changed to unappetizing.
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Prune juice begone! Pawpaw leather before your colonoscopy, anyone?
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I have not forgotten about you, Twelve Monkeys; I will mail your requested scion out in a day or two. I have been swamped.
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Yes, to explain further, Ron had the single specimen of Ark-21 left a few years ago, which I had chatted with him about. He had grafted two small pawpaw. One died, and the last survived which he babied back.
There may be other sources other than Ron, but neither I or Sherri at KSU was able to locate them. Any further propagation that occurred from that seems the result of Ron sharing it. Your information about the regional trials is out of date. The Blandy and PPF fields are gone. Those are dead. Along with the other test field that begins with a W, forgot the name. The LSU plot is gone according to LSU. The original Petit Jean pawpaw can no longer be located if I recall from my conversation from Ron. It’s possible it’s still there but no records can be located. In any case, those seedlings at LSU are gone too, at least that is what LSU agro says.
I forgot who I talked to a while back, it’s either Jerry or the other program head that passed away a few years ago. Their home had some grafts but it was sold and those trees were kiboshed by the new owner.
In any case, one of Jerry’s friends in NAFEX and the Texas chapter of CRFG exchanged some notes with me on Ark-21, which he successfully fruited after waiting 4 years with a grafted plant gifted frm Jerry. Be prepared to be underwhelmed about the fruit. Ron says the LSU breeding was focused on the landscaping aspects of the tree not the fruit.
I get that people are collecting pawpaw cultivars like pokemon, but unless you plan to be breeding, there is little point. The collection is going to be never ending and there are reasons why old cultivars go extinct. Wilsons probably the next on the chopping block and I doubt any one is going to shed any tears (i.e. Kirk) when that can no longer be located.
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Many people grew ARK-21 in their backyards. You state that my information about the regional trials is out of date. I understand that those fields are long gone. I was explaining the origin of ARK-21. I know the location of the original mother tree and have found superior Asimina triloba trees on Petit Jean Mountain and Crystal Mountain in Arkansas. And I do, in fact, breed pawpaws; I am again hand-pollinating today. I do not collect them like Pokemon. Your comments are condescending Peachy. Wilson and several others are not part of my collection. The individual you speak of is Bill Arendt who recently sent me scion of ARK-21 in hopes of my sending him scion from the cultivar ‘Big Sweet Boobs’ which I have received from Europe. Mr. Arendt grows trees in South Texas, Houston, and of all his original plantings a few years ago the only survivor was Rebeccas Gold. Even the hard Ass ‘Sunflower’, pawpaw kicked the bucket. Houston is no place to grow paws and expect to develop the full flavor profile. Mr. Arendt has a Texas Paw Growers Facebook group for anyone interested. He is a fine gentleman and has quite a few Asimina trilobas growing at his home orchard in Houston. I have sent some of the Texas members seeds of Sunflower x Prima 1216 to grow in challenging environments such as the city of Austin, etc.
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You are taking my comments way way too seriously and personally. They were not directed specifically to you.
And I was explaining the background information that Ron Powell had relayed to me at that time. Nothing more nothing less. Many people did grow. But many people also grew other cultivars, I’m just pointing out that they no longer grow for a reason.
No I am not speaking of Bill. There is another individual.
The person I speak of does not live in Texas. I only stated they belong to NAFEX and the Texas chapter of CRFG which includes people from the neighboring states, which includes Louisiana, Arkansas, Mississippi, Oklahoma and even further Missouri, Tennessee. The Texas chapter is the most eastward chapter of CRFG. Anyone in CRFG not in Cali is often part of that group.
I trust Ron Powell’s opinion of the LSU program and his taste evaluation of Ark-21. It correlates with the opinion of the other person in CRFG who grew out Ark-21 for many years.
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Could you tell something more about ‘BSB’ ? As far as I know, it’s not available in european nursery trade or even mentioned on forums or facebook groups…
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Duly noted.
It is available at the Nursery in Belgium. I have widely mentioned this on my old Pawpaw group- Pawpaw Lovers World Wide and on the group Pawpaw Fanclub International that I Administrate and enforce the rules and track down , expose and ban scammers, Phishers and Catfishers and prevent them from rejoining with any future account they may create. I have all of the data and pics of BIg Sweet Boobs 1 and 2. I will post it on my new Facebook group Pawpaw USA. What is your real name Lech? I am William Osteen, and you,Sir?
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For me, Mr. Peach, it is not all about the fruit when it comes to the pawpaw tree. I am not a commercial grower, I am a plant collector and grower of many species. I particularly like the Tropicals. The Asimina triloba is a tropical-looking tree that when grown in full sun, is a beautiful landscape specimen that looks like it just stepped out of a Costa Rican Rainforest. I would grow many of these trees even if they did not bear fruit. You mentioned that LSU was looking to breed just such specimens for ornamental value. I have a number of the beautiful quilted leafed Susquehanna and the beautiful dark green leafed NC-1’s and others growing along the Flagstone pathway and behind the Koi pond waterfall. Add a few potted palms, plumerias. Java Blue bananas, candle trees, hibiscus, etc. and you will have a beautiful tropical setting. The pawpaw blossoms are unique and hybrids have been bred with other asimina species that now bear huge flowers. Many do not care for pawpaw fruit once they have tried it. The Pawpaw Craze is upon us and people want to get on the bandwagon. It is now in Vogue to have pawpaw trees growing in the home landscape.
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Not me. Ron Powell’s assertion…I did not have first hand interaction with the LSU pawpaw program when it existed.
Such is the way of all things circular.
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Indeed.
Did you have any success with your 9,000 seeds?
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I’m having issues growing anything on this copper damaged land.
It’s in the middle of a copper mine flood zone.
I’m working on it.
Will post if I figure out how to compensate for it.
Right now even grapes, persimmon, pomegranate, figs, show copper toxicity.
I’m about to plant about a hundred fig cuttings this week.
Thinking about planting pawpaw & pomegranate seeds with them in East/West rows.
It will be about 106F to 110F when they germinate, if I move forward & plant.
I’m planning on spraying their leaves with (Sodium Molybdate) to induce the stomata breathing pores to close!
I will do that every 2 weeks, if effective.
One of the main problems in pawpaw is UV-LIGHT opening the Stomata 8 times as much as Blue Light
I read this in a student research paper on understory species.
They claimed that pawpaw have 3 times the number of stomata & that the stomata are almost 5 times as big & that the stomata are hyperactive to UV-LIGHT.
Most species close their stomata in response to UV, but not pawpaw.
I have also thought about using sodium to inhibit iron.
For now soil pH has been dropped from (10.6pH) to 7pH & potassium sulfate has been added.
Update in 6 weeks if they sprout.
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When I inherited my parents property, I should have verified that things other than mesquite, polaloverde, creosote & cactus would grow on it, before investing thousands of $$$ & depleting what little bit of inheritance I received.
It is what it is &: I’m doubling down at attempting to make it work.
Will get back to you.
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Thanks for the desert update Z. Any security fencing installed to prevent the hungry Javelina from eating your tender starts?
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