Pawpaws in 2025!

It’s supposed to be a really solid variety. Have not tried it yet, have 1 young tree.

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Most people on a web forum like this sign up with a “username” which on the internet most of the time isn’t your actual name but sometimes a fun nickname or favorite movie or random words. Some that do use their names as their username find that they are not the only person called John or Smith and end up using a username like John1234 since username usually has to be unique.
So most websites are more anonymous minus Facebook where theoretically you have to use your real name (although i know people who have fake accounts with fake names on FB to still be anonymous).
Some people here put their first name and maybe some info about themselves in their Profile info here if they want to show their real name (you can see that Profile info if you click on their username).

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I am fully aware of the workings of the Internet and Facebook groups, 12 Monkeys. I had no idea until recently that you were the same person I had been conversing with on the Facebook groups. 2

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Yup thats me… i still just use my AOL IM username from the 90s when i liked the movie 12 Monkeys (and was limited by 16 characters so hence the word ‘da’ in my username instead of ‘the’ :laughing: )

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I have several trees of this cultivar whose fruit compares favorably to that of the Queen Pawpaw Susquehanna. I sent scion of this variety to Annie Black of Hidden Springs Nursery in Tennessee a while back…, Annie is the daughter of the late Hector Black. I will check my files and speak with Annie Black. Hector Black brought back germplasm from a tree at Jerry Lehman’s orchard and named it -‘Lehmans’ Chiffon. What data do you have regarding the origin old Cultivar ‘Cawood’, Mr. Cothron? I see that you have stated that it originated in Iowa.

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I don’t remember the exact date as I used wayback machine…

Some folks from FB groups also described it as a Tennessee selection which is likly looking at the ripening time.

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Thanks, Mike.

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I’ve just heard things about Cawood, and posted what I found online regarding it. Sometimes there are debates about where a pawpaw variety originated. For instance, some say Rebecca’s Gold is from N. California, some say Indiana… overall it doesn’t really matter that much, what matters is ripening time, fruit quality, disease resistance, vigor, etc.

I’ve heard Cawood is quite good, but that’s all I really can say. It’s in the variety descriptions in my book.

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Most of these cultivars’ performance depends upon regionality. However, some, such as Jerry Lehmans Marias Joy, tend to fruit reliably everywhere.

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North American pawpaw love North American Turkey manure, well composted, this, and regular feedings of liquid fish and seaweed fertilizer bring out full flavor potential, make pawpaw fruit culinary delight. :turkey: :fish: :herb: :droplet: :cloud_with_rain: :sun_with_face:

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Well said, whoever you are.

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btw i got my Kentucky State Nursery pawpaw order today (100 rootstock at $1 each plus a little more for shipping). Very nice, very graftable, nice roots. They sold out relatively quick (well i think over a couple months in the fall), so try to grab some early next year.
(Packed inside very well, although the box was a little wet and ripped slightly open I assume after getting a little wet carrying the package to front of house. They prob can tape up the box a little better but Im not complaining for the price i got).

If anyone needs… Pikes Peak looks like they have a 18-24" size if anyone needs (20 pack for $100 + shipping), but maybe call them to confirm graftable (my 18-24" persimmon was very nice size last year):

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Any thoughts on whether a paw paw could be grown in container? I’ve wanted to smash 2 onto my tiny urban property for a few years now, but it’s impossible. I could, however, have two manageable containers shaded when little and then on my deck.

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Technically that’s possible, however if the container freezes solid the pawpaw will most likely perish. It will also outgrow a large container within a few years time. If you have even a postage stamp backyard you could plant several seedlings/grafted trees even just a few feet apart and they could still grow fairly well and produce fruit.

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Many years ago I extensively used KY state nursery pawpaws for grafting. The way they are mechanically ripped out of the ground deeply shocks the sensitive roots. Then containerizing a field grown tree adds to the stress. Any grafts will barely grow more than a few inches due to the transplant shock.

Trees treated like this will take at least 2 additional years to stabilize and recover, if they ever do. Yes it’s possible to do pawpaws like this, and you save a few bucks on rootstock perhaps, but it adds at least several years to the maturation of the tree, at best.

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Thank you and interesting. Are you implying that it’s better to start from scratch if trying to grow in container? Unfortunately, I really am entirely out of in ground room on the postage stamp.

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I am just providing info that pawpaws will die if the pots freeze solid in the winter in your region. This would necessitate protecting the pots from freezing in winter. Also, within a few years the tree would be rootbound in a container, unless it was extremely large.

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I got some heating mats from Spider Farms with a sensor that I can stick in the soil and set to a given temp. Supposedly it can go 50-70F above ambient temp (my basement is 50F currently). What is a good temperature for pawpaw seeds? My sense is the warmer the better; iirc, @weatherandtrees puts his right on top of his pellet stove. Curious for any parameters or insight though.

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Turns out it’s cold enough in my basement that the heating mat seems a little hard-pressed to live up to this, at least, if the thermometer is to be trusted.

Anyway, here’s ~15 different named cultivar sets of seeds (mostly from @OckooMicrofarm) in takeout containers with moist vermiculite, let’s see if they start.

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Yeah nothing scientific here. I just keep them on the “coolest” part of the stove otherwise they may cook. But the stove doesn’t run all of the time either as we get into spring. So the seeds cycle between room temp (70F) and whatever it heats up to with the stove on. If anything, that may simulate natural surface temp cycles better than just leaving the heat pad on all of the time.

Good luck with whatever method you try.

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