My nectaplum has buds too. Maybe in 2 weeks it will bloom.
Man, Iām still waiting for my nectaplum from Raintree. They said it would ship mid april but I havenāt gotten any shipping notice. Going to make a call tomorrow. Itās going to be getting in the ground at least least 4-6 weeks after I planted my first bare root trees of the season. Heck, my apples and cherries are already leafed out. Only my Asian pear is still struggling.
Drew51 hi
Looks I wrote 2 times should have been words, there should have only one of those words. I thought we use Detroit city airport KDET code for temperature data, which shows zone 6 temperature so far for 2015 year, but you gave me Mt Clemens code KMTC which is that temperature you told me. I looked data and yes you was that temperature range which you told last 2 years if you use latter code for temperature date. So you think jet stream played part of it? I think sun can affect also indirect way weather patterns, letās say NAO. So you think it is unusual to get this kind of cold, so are you surprised about this cold? I think based on sun world temperature might be begin to cool. But I think it is not straight line down, we need to think there is natural variability still. Meaning there is warm time too, so if you had real cold winter you might get some warmer winters so you might get closer to average.
Regarding your peach flower buds, I guess if you had constant cold your peach trees maybe didnāt loose hardiness during winter which may happen if you get above freezing. That might let you have some peach flower buds, donāt be too excited about it so you donāt disappoint you. I know waiting might be long time to see peach flowers, but peach take their time to get flowering so you have to wait if you have flower buds. Above I gave link to Michigan university site which have images of flower buds, if you want to compare if you have peach flower bud. What you mean by last clause? You mean to get ripe peach, I think it is in summer or fall so at of this writing it is many months away. You have many diseases and insect problems on U.S.A. which may lead problems before getting ripe peaches, so donāt get too excited yet, to avoid disappointments, but you can hope to get peaches.
You wrote " I donāt ever remember it being this cold ā. What is this time period of ever? Last 6 years or since 2008 or what? I remind you about solar cycle 24, which is about weakest in about last 100 years. You wrote : " Hopefully it will be another 10 years before it becomes this cold again!ā You can hope for warm winters, but donāt put your hopes too high, expectations should be reasonably some way so not big disappointment happen to you. You wrote " Yes, the solar cycle may have contributed, but that influence is more longer term, I suspect overall the earth will continue to cool like it has for some time now." Donāt know what you mean by longer term, solar cycle is long time thing but we might get many of those weak solar cycles. You wrote " Apparently the long term trend (100 year) we are warming, but the last 20 years we have been cooling" what you mean by long term trend 100 year? We had warmer temperature in word in 1900ās than 1800ās yes if you think that. But relatively in last 100 years or so there has been warmer and colder times, so it is not all warm weather, we need to remember natural variability in this regard. Of that last part of the clause not sure about 20 years, but It seems warming has stopped, some say warmest year was 1998. You wrote " Still warmer for the 100 year period.". Do not get what you said, is there missing words of it? You wrote " That soon may change though if this keeps up!" there is chance that we might get global cooling, leading to 1800ās like temperature. You wrote : " All temps have done this many times. To me the weather is the weather, happened before, will happen again. Nothing new or unusual." If you meant temperature have been up and down in past, yes that is correct. You gave me link there is a lot of text, but I saw they mentioned 1970ās cooling, I think it is not good idea to point that time because when I looked our solar cycle data I saw 1 weakening solar cycle but not more if I remember right. Our current sun situation is different from that as we have or is going to have more declining solar cycles than that. In other words our situation is worse than that. Also global warming believers use this time period against global cooling as if you say cooling is coming and world turned to warming in late 1970ās there is not much time for cooling, in other words this cooling was too short time and it was called way too late that cooling is coming if it started happen earlier. Do you call you as weather change denier? I think that might not be good idea for telling about coming weather. I think I look more of data and then think it in common sense what makes sense, if it shows global warming then conclusion might be global warming, but at this moment when I look the data we might get global cooling, yes we have warmed but now it seems we are getting global cooling. I remind you that global cooling has in past times was preceded by global warming sometimes maybe significant warming. I have feeling that you havenāt looked sun and weather same amount of time than me. I think i have good image of coming weather, based what information i have seen on internet, it is not perfect as perfection doesnāt exist in earth but it is someway conceivable to me, i canāt be sure but when i look history i can be somewhat confident about it, but if there is some bigger factor than what i have counted which can override it then it can be wrong, but i havenāt seen something that might be happening in future which could be good for us, making us to warming. I know there has been warmer times in past, but i havenāt seen information that when those might occur again. At this moment it looks like global cooling is coming, but warming might be better for us. This got little long message and i stop now writing of this.
Yes, that is why they survived. It was constantly cold.
The jet stream moves and many times it ends up south of us, but that didnāt happen this winter. So locally that makes a lot of difference.
See this link, look at right side for jet stream tomorrow.
http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/national/weather-surface-maps
Thatās what I meant. Overall it is colder, but the jet stream can deliver warmer air here.
I use the Mt Clemons station because it is about 6-8 miles away. Metro airport is not really in Detroit, it is west of Detroit. From here it is about 42 miles away.
Yes the currant solar cycle will cool the earth for a long time. What the sun does is everything. What we do matters little.
Drew51 hi
Good if you have peach flowers. I looked link you gave, I donāt understand much of this jet stream thing. Do you mean if that is south Detroit you get warmer winter? I said KDET code which is Detroit city airport, you wrote Metro airport which is different weather station code KDTW. It is Mt Clemens not Mt Clemons as you wrote. Not sure about how long solar cycle 24 affect weather, but next solar cycle might be weak also, it is possible it is weaker than current solar cycle, solar cycle 24 which we are now in.
You said you might take your nectaplum out, well that is your choice what you do but think what do you plant to that place then if something, also can you wait new tree then to become fruiting age? If you want to plant new peach tree or fruit tree, think also what is available to you get and what kind of fruit tree you want to try to grow and what kind of fruit you want in taste.
The jet stream is the wind direction west to east. If it moves way south where the main winds are below Michigan it is very cold here, and this is what it did all winter. But sometimes the main winds move up into Canada, and it is warmer here when that happens. The jet stream always blows west to east, but itās latitude changes position.
I decided to keep the nectaplum, it also appears to be OK, and flowering. Detroit City airport is fairly close to me. Iām not sure how far exactly? Iām not sure which is closer? When I put my zip code in, it gives me Mt Clemens (I misspelled it!), so i assume it is closer.
Drew51 hi
O.K. for information about jet stream. I guess that keeping nectaplum is O.K. choice as it have made through winter. Detroit city airport code is KDET coordinates are 42,41 N and 83,01 W. Mt Clemens code is KMTC coordinates are 42,62 N and 82,83 W. Detroit metro airport code is KDTW and coordinates 42,23 N and 83,33 W. Those are those weather station locations, N means north And W means west so when N increases it is more northern location and when W increases it is more westerly location. I think 1 degree = 100 km distance. I think it varies where in world you are but that is quite good estimate how much there is difference in distance in 1 degree. 1 celsius change temperature is 1,8 Fahrenheit change. If you want you want to use miles you can convert it to 1 km = 0,62 miles. So 0,01 degree difference is about 1 km or 0,62 miles different in location. Note those distances are calculated as bird flies, not as cars would drive between those locations which is longer as roads are not straight, as they zigzag. Now you can calculate difference in kilometers by multiplying difference in those weather station with that, difference in 0,01 degrees multiply 1 or that miles number if you prefer that. Detroit city airport is most southernmost of those three locations.