congratulations on the brilliant results with persimmons. We live in a quite similar climate (I am a bit cooler) and I wanted to ask you which hybrids ripen without any problems, almost always? similarly. I wanted to ask you how with the American ones that work well for you?
To all - what you think - which hybrids arr the earliest-ripening and same with the American?
maybe we would try to make some form of summarizing the order of persimmon ripening?
I think all northern growers would appreciate this information
Thanks for the link. Perhaps I misspelled myself. I thought about collecting the data in a partially scientifically accurate way, but not taking too much time for forum members. In terms of basic data such as variety / start date / year / region. of course you could add flowering time, pollination, fruit weight, brix, rippening period roughly to SAT / GDD (simple for me, my weather station does it for me) but it is unlikely to be done on such a grand scale. The data on rippening are highly divergent(pawpaw also); for people with a shorter / cooler season, they can make a big difference when choosing a variety to plant.
I found two seeds that looked fully filled out, so I guess that means I have at least some male 90-chromosome trees in the area. I wasn’t sure if they were 60 or 90 and thought at least the closest ones I know of were 60s since they had more of a tall timber form some had suggested meant likely to be 60s.
Does that mean hybrids might be seeded here as well?
Looks bigger in your hand. Does it have the wild flavor or something else? I’ve left the fruit on plenty of times. Usually it’s a one off and they don’t fruit again for a couple more years after. I grafted LD this year, but deer took one and the other only did like 2 inches of growth. Doubtful it will make it.
The area around my home has a large population of persimmons. I see two different types of bark on mature fruiting trees which suggests something is going on with the genetics. One tree beside my house has a huge load this year. Seed are abundant with 8 to 12 in each fruit, however, the seed are not fully filled out. They are flat although otherwise the size of a small to medium persimmon seed. I’m curious if anyone else has had persimmons that can’t seem to make normal seed?
TNHunter, there is a very nice wild persimmon tree at Colbert Ferry park on Natchez Trace. Put in these coordinates and google will pinpoint it.
What makes it unusual? 1.5 to 2 inch diameter fruit that have minimal astringency when they fall from the tree. They lose all astringency if kept on a counter for a few days.
I have noticed a big difference in bark on the persimmon trees here in northern Kentucky. I noticed it this year and wondered if it was a way to tell between 60c and 90c.
One seems to have a block-like appearance to the bark. Looks something like the back of an alligator. The trees i have noticed with the block-shaped bark can grow into a very large tree. 50+ft. The bark looks the same on the younger, smaller diameter trees so i realized its not a maturity thing causing this difference. Another thing is these trees drop their fruit several weeks or more before the other type.
The other type of bark i noticed is on much smaller trees. The largest i have found with this bark is around 30ft and the younger smaller trees near it have the same bark. I have pictures of the second type. It doesnt have the blocky appearance.