The strange thing is that on their website they say that “Caramel Cocktail” will grow to 35ft to 60ft.
I bought H-63A/Paradise a month ago because from everywhere I’ve read, the tree is MUCH smaller for an American Persimmon variety. Heck, Cliff England’s own website says his 20 year old tree is only 14ft tall.
EDIT: I found this thread on these forums saying that Gurneys themself say that they are grown from cuttings. Interesting if they’ve figured out how to do that. Maybe that’s why the trees are so massive from them? They aren’t using a rootstock that would make the tree smaller? hmmmmm.