My guess is that it wasn’t tested nearly well enough. At on point, I saw where someone else in the east or southeast had problems with moonglow.
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Yes Clark, it is a post of a reasonably useful resource. Posting it in every pear thread on GF gets a bit redundant. As I mentioned earlier, it is a relatively poor resource because it has a limited number of varieties and the information presented is missing key pieces of information. Consider putting together a pollination sheet that shows these items:
Variety
Origin
Average bloom date
Self incompatible?
Pollen sterile?
Incompatibility with other varieties
Average fruit maturity date
Fruit use (fresh, storage, preserves, etc)
Fire blight susceptibility
Other diseases
Pests
You might ask the mods to set up a pollination specific thread for any and all fruit varieties. As an example, I have half a dozen good resources for pecan pollination that would be nice to have in a pollination specific sticky thread. Another thing some might like to see is a good list of varieties you have growing.
Think your aware i am a moderator. Constructing a list will take more time than i have to spare for a while. If you want, you and I can collaborate on it. It’s a good idea to have more pollination information for other people. @scottfsmith
ultimately decides website content. Let me know if your interested. Great idea!
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Do you have a good list of pear varieties? Yes, I know you are a mod, but also know it would need approval to set up a dedicated pollination sub-forum. It would be useful because virtually every plant we grow has some type of pollination requirement.
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Thanks @clarkinks … i will take that advice.
I looked up info on Ayers… self pollinating large fruit ripens August high resistence to FB. Sounds ideal. Known as a southern pear.
Auburn sent me some of those and i grafted them at my neighbors house to callery.
Ayers and orient are said to pollinate… and i have a graft of orient already on a callery in the edge of my field. Harrow delight … i started to ask about it earlier for early variety. Glad you recommended it.
If I get all of that going on here… i will be in pear heaven.
Thanks
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Ayers are not huge more of a medium pear Ayers pear!. Like harrow sweet they can be decent sized if thinned heavily.
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A well-constructed pollination compatibility can go into the Reference category with a thread title of pear (or other fruit) pollination compatibility.
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Lets see what Scott thinks then maybe collaborate with a bunch of people to put it together as a reference page. Scott has grown lots of pears maybe he has a good idea or has it even partially done.
I will take medium… no problem.
Orient and kieffer are said to pollinate… and i just read that ayers and orient pollinate.
Even though Ayers is said to be self pollinating… it should benefit from orient and kieffer pollen… right… maybe not larger fruit… but more fruit.
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Add a couple of columns, need pseudonyms, need species. Anything else you can think of that would be useful?
Variety
Origin
Pseudonym(s)
Species
PI # if in Grin
Average bloom time
Self incompatible
Pollen sterile
Incompatibility with other varieties
Average fruit maturity date
Fruit use (fresh, storage, preserves, etc)
Fire blight susceptibility
Other diseases
Pests
Notes
Kieffer Pennsylvania, United States No alias Pyrus hybrid PI 541714 type 3 bloom
I extracted everything Pyrus from ARS-Grin and have 3906 entries in a spreadsheet. I can tell just looking that many popular pears today are missing from the list.
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I kept Moonglow several years without any FB. It was slow to fruit and I never figured out how to ripen it.
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@Auburn … thanks… i will stay away from moonglow.
I am thinking my new kieffer and imp kieffer (on callery) trees… + a few grafts of orient, ayers, harrow delight (added perhaps next spring or the next)… will have me in good shape on pears.
@Fusion_power … that would be an awesome resource on pears.
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There are people who do well with moonglow but i never was one of them. There are many better pears to grow in my opinion. Someone please post if your experience was different.
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I agree. Pruned some fb strikes out of my moonglow this afternoon.
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I am going to start a new thread titles “Pear Identity and traits” which will be used to build a spreadsheet of pears and associated traits. The first step is to gather a list of varieties, especially those grown today, and a description of the pears. Here are the items Clark is looking for. Yes Clark, this is your baby. I’m just the midwife.
Variety
Description
PI#
Pseudonym(s)
Origin
Species
Bloom date
Pollen Group
Self Fertile(SF)/Sterile(SS)
Incompatible Vars
Average fruit maturity date
Fruit use (fresh, storage, preserves, perry)
Fire blight R/S
Other diseases
Pests
Has Growing (Nursery or grower who has it)
I’m also up to my eyeballs in things that have to be done yesterday.
Do you have a current list of all pear varieties you have grafted?
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That is a long list lets start with these pears that have some resistance to fireblight from this thread Bell Pear aka US84909-391.
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