Shipova: disappointing first crop; worth keeping?

That’s good to hear! I put one in this spring. In a maritime zone environment of the Great Lakes. I have found few plants that thrive in this area. The dogwood cherry is one that does do well too. I waited 30 years for some cacti to flower so I can do 10 easy. Well I am on the back nine so hopefully it fruits before I reach the 18th hole. Another fine looking tree is jujube. Shipova is cool looking no doubt. Glad I added it I have a contorted jujube and a contorted quince. I enjoy them a lot. The ornamental value is top shelf. Best looking plants I have if you ask me.

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I grew them decades ago. The wait was horrendous. They got a lot of fungal diseases here and some died. I thought the fruit was pretty good, but nothing special. Then I decided to graft it to aronia so it would be more precocious. It got a lot MORE fungal disease. Easily not worth it for me. I don’t grow shipova any more.
John S
PDX OR

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How much the difference between shipova and baby shipova?

What kind of fungal diseases John? Mine, on aronia, don’t seem bad, and an adjacent pear got rust on a couple of leaves in 2020.

Not rust. They were kind of powdery blue, rotten, cracked bark, stunted situations. Is that the scientific name?
John S
PDX OR

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Although the consensus here has been pretty “meh” with regards to shipova, I’m still intrigued and want to try it. Would anyone be willing to send me shipova scions in the new year? I have a fully grown multi-stem aronia in my back yard, and I’d like to try grafting some shipova onto it (maybe replacing one of the main aronia stems with shipova?). I’d be happy to pay for postage, or willing to trade!

Also, I haven’t tried grafting yet, so any advice or tips on the best method, timing, and temperature to graft would be very much appreciated. I just got a little grafting kit for Christmas, so I’m excited to try it! The kit has a hand-held tool, some parafilm, and a grafting knife (like this, although I’m not sure if this is the exact brand, since my husband got it for me)

I have Shipova scions I could send you from my 20-year-old tree. You can read my description above. No disease problems and an annual producer.
I’m looking for certain European plum, European pear, or loquat scions. Do you have any of these?

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I’d surely appreciate it!

Unfortunately, I don’t have any of those. My zone is too cold for loquat, and I don’t have any pears (yet!). I have Hollywood plum, but that’s my only plum. The list of things I grow is in my profile, if you’d like anything else, or I could PayPal or Venmo you for the scions?

Mineral deficiencies can cause fruiting issues, a soil test could be need.

They should taste like Asian pears, I believe.

You could start with boron, dissolve 2 Tablespoons of common borax in water and put it in two gallons or more of water and sprinkle at the ends of and outside the root canopy.

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My shipova was planted about 1996, about 25’ tall, nice looking as a shade tree. First fruited 4 years ago, lots of light green, 2 1/2" long fruit on the ground. No yellow gold coloring, they drop from the tree green. Bland, no real flavor, I leave them for the birds (doves really seem to like them). This is in the heat of the Midwest, lot’s of apples are mealy and flavorless, also.

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Well, now I don’t feel so bad that the shipova I planted didn’t even make it through the summer.

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Mine were growing fine, planted on the edge of the orchard, we’ll see how they do.

I grafted Shipova onto ‘Viking’ aronia(which is actually an aronia/sorbus hybrid) and into a volunteer aronia/sorbus hybrid that popped up in my orchard here in Maine. The grafts will be in their third year, hopefully being on dwarfing roots will hasten the bearing. I will put it onto OHxF 97 this year to preserve the variety just in case any issues develop with those previously mentioned. I have seen a mature specimen that was quite productive, I assume it was on pear understock due to its size.

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I have found with ALL stone fruit and pome fruit,it is the 3rd and 4th crop were fruit quality improves a bit or an extremely good amount.

I try to encourage people to wait it out since your investment already took several years,why not give it a couple more.

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Can Shipova be grafted onto Quince? And does that provide a dwarfing effect? I’ve only seen it mentioned as grafted onto Mt. Ash to produce a full-sized tree or Aronia to dwarf it.

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