Small lot growers

Does a 1/5 acre count as “small”? Feels spacious to us after a 3000sqft lot and apartments before that (though I did have a magical place with a balcony and a patio, I was living like a king)

We rent and our place has very established landscaping, so most of my edibles are in a high-density container garden on a patio, here’s a pano

Sungold, zukes, 3 blueberries, another zuke & cuke roommates in one half barrel, fig, Ajvarski pepper, fantasia, cara cara, Tasmanian chocolate, ohenry, 3 Salvia sp, and an ornamental olive, pink Berkeley tie dye, and last but not least a stupice tomato. Over by the shed is a blackberry bush and my lupine “nursery” with a pair

The chicken run will hopefully be a melon and pumpkin patch, but it’s fairly shaded from a volunteer fig and unknown prunus that are far too tall to yield anything to us

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mine is an 1/8 acre so i think so yeah

“if only i used raised beds it would not be an impenetrable jungle” no. no no

pruned the toka graft out of the plum tree. I’m over it, 5 years and not one fruitlet

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I said screw it and dumped my sprouted potatoes in this unfinished box today. They have languished enough!


Covered them up with a few buckets of compost.

Here is a nice wildflower I have no idea what it is.

A big turd also found his way into my gunnera pot while I was working on my pond…



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7200 sqft lot here with a ton of prior vegetation and landscaping by previous owners, all done very well. Back yard, as viewed from the house, faces northeast, front yard faces southwest. I have a spacious hillside in which I could grow huge amounts of stuff but it is already covered in plants, some of which I’ve added (natives), and a few which I’ve removed from a lower bed. Even though I could go crazy on the hill part adding all manner of stuff, it’s actually important that the existing vegetation stay as it helps secure the slope against erosion and since we’re in a valley I’m basically at the base of it, starting from my backyard heading upwards so erosion and drainage are always a background concern. I’ve since mulched the entire hillside, added erosion mat on the steepest part, and added various native grasses on ledges and the such. I plan to add even more natives to the steepest part of the hillside to help root the soil but I’m leaving the bottom of the slope as a potential open-ended option, although it tends to only get mid-day → evening light due to the fence right against it.

The lot is a classic ranch house layout: wide. The only problem light wise is a massive monterrey cypress in my neighbors yard which cuts off sun in the morning by about 2 hours becoming progressively worse towards the summer equinox until the sun wraps around and clears the tree, plus the sides of other slopes which also generally occlude morning light (no fixing that).

When we moved in the house already had fruit trees, 3 meyer lemons, an apple tree of unknown origin, multiple cherry plum trees, and 3 blueberry bushes. Since then I’ve colonized the upper patio area into basically “berry grove” with a ton of containerized blueberries (southern, northern, and rabbiteyes - many of them just younger plants), some raspberries, various rubus hybrids, and other species I’ve been collecting along the way which I intend to plant in the ground in a lower bed. There “used” to be a privacy hedge of 6 Japanese privet shrubs flanking an apple tree - of which the shrubs still exist but I’ve heavily thinned them out and took 2 of them down to stumps as it was simply an excessive amount of trees/foilage to have in that spot. It’s allowed a lot more light filtering into the bed in which they’re planted from which I’ll add some native huckleberries and ferns.

I plan to turn this unshaded lower bed area into a spot for my rabbiteyes and highbush plants but the two existing bush daisies need to be removed first. I’ll likely keep the rosemary and definitely keep the large ceanothus behind it. The area with brush debris in front of the retaining wall I intend to trellis logan, boysen, and/or olallie, and both fence lines in the back of the patio will also get cane berries of some sort.

Here’s some drone shots from before we bought the place:

I basically spend the vast majority of my off-time in the backyard. Either screwing around with small fruit plants, planting/propagating natives, or hanging out with wife and dog. Plus taking care of the house, dealing with gophers, squirrels, birds, snakes, pests, irrigation, etc. Luckily the deer can’t get in, but they do eat my neighbor’s pears. It’s a very comfortable place to be though.

I also recently signed up for a subscription to shadowmap.org (it’s like 10 bucks a month) just to be able to accurately plot sun and shadow coverage for any time or day of the year. It’s actually pretty cool because I basically just added a bunch of their canned 3d trees and a few rectangles for the fences from their editor and was able to mostly mimic how reality looks including the exact time that patio and bed gets light in the summer vs late winter/spring:

The things we do for our plants…

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All of this is very very cool, but I really can’t get over this fact. Everyone I know with one has lemons coming out of their ears

I miss the native plant presence where I am now. I’ve got a few in pots, but my place (and neighborhood, and whole city) is sadly landscaped in a way where they don’t make as much sense aesthetically

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Yeah, they’re insane. Two of them are smaller plants though, one of which is in the front yard. I’m actually considering removing the front yard one but I want to find someone who will take it first. We don’t even consume all the lemons from the main tree as it is.

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Very pretty layout on your lot. It’s so nice all the retaining wall work was done for you and you can work within the layout!

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Some more pictures from this afternoon.

First flower I’ve witnessed open on my Goldini Zucchini!

The rose is pushing through! Yay!!

Jungle greenhouse. The other one has one plant in it. Lol

First artichoke to start opening. :grinning_cat_with_smiling_eyes:


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Looking for suggestions. The deck steps trellis concept is great and reality is not. The hanging pail pots are 1) overheating in the 100 degree days and 2) too small (2g). I just cut off all the runner beans that were failing. The containers were densely filled with roots that were very warm. I can somewhat address #1 with bubblewrap as I did for some containers against my piping hot foundation last year. I can’t really change #2 this year. Would love to know if anyone has found a tall narrow 10g that doesn’t ship freight. Or good, large pails ideally with one flat side. I cannot put a normal shaped 10 on the steps a 7g fits, and at worst, I’ll try melon in that for the hotter side (not in the monardas) next year

In the meantime, what would you put in here? What vines, like the heat and can handle a small container?

For the immediate, I threw butterfly pea seeds into one side and sugar baby on the other. I know 2g is way too small for the sugar baby, but watermelon might be able to handle the heat, germinates in about 2 days in this weather and and at this point, I just want some alive vines over the panel.

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sweet potato maybe? not for tubers but for greens?

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Mid July street and driveway garden. The helenium autumnale up front street garden is only just starting to bloom will be nice in a week or two I hope to refresh the area. liatris squarrosa and monarda punctatas are only just starting to bloom. I think that’s it for summer and then will be waiting on the fall bloomers while the pumpkin and melon patch become more exciting.

Foundation being built next to us. They threw a massive 12’ 2x4 on my metal fencing this morning.

front yard Pumpkin/melon patch coming along

Most inclusive picture I can take of the mid summer veg gardens. Can’t see half of it all, but it’s impossible to photograph. I don’t like seeing the bare soil or cattle panel. It’s been a weird year. Copious notes for next year, per the usual.

There’s so much I need to do. Did bare min for a few days and got really behind. I also need to go around and get better pictures. Which is hysterical because my phone is all pictures of the gardens or my kids posing with the gardens.

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Garden looks great!

BTW: if someone is building a concrete foundation right next to your land be very sure they’re accounting for drainage appropriately and not going to send runoff in your direction.

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Absolutely valid point. thankfully this lot is on the low side of us as the street slopes down. There are pretty stringent stormwater management requirements for building in my county, thankfully. We know them well since we built our house.

The more immediate issues is how they’re destroying my deer fencing with the massive two by fours as they smashed the crap out of it yet again. AFTER the builder called the sub and super. Looks like sht all warped as much as I could bend it back. I despise construction. Accomplished half of what I wanted to with my free hour since half was spent on the fence and talking to people about not throwing huge 2x4’s into my property. Those huge pieces you see propped up in one of my pictures. They would have taken out my 3 nectarines if the fence wasn’t there. All the negative words

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Jungle Back corner of yard at sunset.

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Looks like a very peaceful place, almost meditative. The bees very much appreciate it, that’s for sure.

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Thank you. It would be if I had more land. Right now, the 13 hours a day of construction next door obliterates that. :persevering_face:

Beautiful!

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A mid season update. Just pulled the potatoes and carrots and beets so 2 beds kinda empty while their new seeds germ

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Creative space users: I need some plant ideas. I’m staring at the ugly stump of the silver maple I cut down this year and thinking it would be cool to screw a large pot to the top, make drainage holes on the sides, and plant something that cascades down. My original idea was to grow climbers up it until the trees planted in front and sides cover it over. But, now I like the idea of planting to grown down. It’s a new idea, so it needs to percolate for a bit to take better shape. Would love input. What would you plant? I should add that it’s part sun

I have a lot of Lonicera sempervirens, so I default might be to use that, though I haven’t tried rooting it. And, it’s such an extensive grower, I’ll have to prune it pretty hard a few times a year

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if you wanted to, you could inoculate it with oyster mushroom spawn and then top it with the pot to hold in the moisture. you would get flushes of shrooms from it for many years before it finally was spent.

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