we didnt happen to get any fruit from his select fruits. they were extra 
odds are it was from one of neals varieties. i was picking mostly susquehanna and shenandoah. not sure what my buddy picked. i ended up with all the seeds. could have been pollinated by anything really. select seedlings or any of the scion he offers. he doesnt offer ksu scions and i didnt see any of their trees when i was out there so thats why i was saying it probably doesnt have any of its genes.
well im glad regulus has better vigor on other root systems because i made a few grafts of it this season. i guess i wouldnt have otherwise.
i wasnt planning on taking any of these to fruit. was either going to sell of the stock next year or graft them next year and sell them off the following year. so youre saying one of the twins will be an unknown “select” clone on its own roots?
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One be a clone of the tree it was from.
The other a cross between that tree & whatever pollinated it.
If by chance it was a runt fruit from a Susquehanna tree, then one of those seedlings is Susquehanna on its own root system & would be very valuable!
Were the fruits Susquehanna or Susquehanna select crosses that the odds came from???
@Osteen @RNeal
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in this scenario, how would one even know what it ends up being if it is grown to fruit?
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Shenandoah is very vigorous.
Susquehanna is slow growing.
If the vigorous one is the clone, then probably Shenandoah.
If the slow grower is the clone then hopefully,
SUSQUEHANNA .
@Osteen @RNeal
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Gotta keep it safe & healthy until you have fruit!!!
Then taste the fruit.
Either that or get a DNA test done.
KSU if interested, might do a DNA test.
Who knows.
If you promised them Susquehanna root suckers, they might test it when it’s a year or two old.
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hopefully im able to overwinter all of my seedlings as its my first time doing it outdoors in pots. cant say for sure it was susquehanna or shenandoah but im 100% sure it came from one of these fruits
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So a 100% chance of a (Susquehanna or Shenandoah) clone on it’s own root system, capable of living 300 years & producing additional (Susquehanna or Shenandoah) clones with equivalent lifespans???
If from a fruit you selected?
what was your friend selecting? can you find out?
Allegheny? Potomac? Tallahatchie? NC-1? Maria’s Joy? Summer Delight? Taytwo? SunFlower?
Form Tom Wahl’s trees, so you know they were real (Susquehanna & Shenandoah).
@Osteen @RNeal @KYnuttrees @TrilobaTracker @scottfsmith @Blake @Vid @Persimmon1
theres no telling what fruit it came from. i would say the largest portion of the fruit we picked was susquehanna or shenandoah. at best 1/4 of it. the rest was random to whatever else tom has growing in the back part of his farm where the persimmons are. we didnt pick anything from up front by the stand. none of it was of his “select” varieties, whatever they were, because he had them marked and were more expensive. so its really just speculation and wouldnt know without dna.
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I believe that also includes:
SAA Overlease, NC-1, Taytwo, Sunflower, Summer Delight, Sundog, Maria’s Joy, Iowa Golden, Halvin, RLG4
So high probability of the smaller ones of his being:
NC-1, Maria’s Joy, Taytwo, SunDog, PA-Golden, Allegheny, Iowa Golden, Halvin, RLG4.
and larger ones being:
SAA Overlease, NC-1, Sunflower, Summer Delight
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really tempting to graft over the bigger one as a lot of my stock didnt make it over winter 
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starting over with more, susquehanna and unknown variety local seeds. a friend here managed to get several trees to production and i got fruit from her in the fall and saved seed. also seeds sent from a forum member
one of each has started well. one of the susq seems like the stalk dried out, no leaves on it. 4 seedlings from maybe 20 seeds
it’s so hard here to keep them watered and humid enough but I’m damn well trying.
the little trees seem happy, still waiting to see any height on them.
i gave them high N fert about in end of March and 202020 last week. might do one more round? they probably want more N. i think
they are surrounded by mushroom beds and the whole patch gets only a little sun and lots of water
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A tip to note , never let pawpaw seeds dry out.
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in addition if you live in an arid climate, mist them on hot days. they cannot stand the dry heat but don’t mind humidity
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