Tropical fruits on the east coast

Getting real close with these guavas.


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Those don’t look like guajava or cattleianum leaves to me… what species is it? The fruit also looks somewhere between those. I saw some talk on TFF recently about how many of the people who have been making available all these interesting guava seeds recently are growing them in close proximity and there’s a decent chance of getting unexpected hybrids. Wonder if maybe that’s what you’ve got there?

EDIT: I see up-thread you mentioned that it is littorale… I’m pretty sure it’s not, though. Here’s what that looks like usually:

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Your guava has much more prominent/indented leaf veins, more like guajava (but also a lot less so than guajava does). I could be wrong, but I think yours is either a mislabelled mystery species or an accidental hybrid.

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I’ll take some more pictures of it then. It being a hybrid or the wrong species would not be surprising.

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Yeah we were discussing how different his looks to both of my cattle/littorale

I think you’re right it’s a hybrid of sorts. I saw Marcos had a few hybrids available but checking the foliage on those photos they don’t match up to @a_Vivaldi

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Also, so far, the ripening fruit isn’t aromatic.

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Sorry I wasn’t ignoring you I am just not very sure, I know they really like acidic conditions though. I would guess mimic the blueberry conditions as far as ph goes and they won’t complain. My plinia aren’t happy enough for me to give advice to anyone haha

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Those look similar to mine now. Yeah my Barbie pink aren’t aromatic until they basically fall off the tree. I would assume the same with the littorale

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Yeah those angles do look more typical, I wonder if it was just a difference between leaves that developed indoors vs outside? The fruit still has more the rough look of guajava (and others) rather than the smoother look of cattleianum fruit, but I don’t know enough about them to know if that’s something that varies that much.

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The immature fruit is much rougher than these nearly ripe ones.

I’ll dig up some flowing photos, since those will also show indoor leaves.





Granted, even indoors I had them under pretty strong light, hence the flowing.

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Your stuff looks so healthy inside, what kind of grow lights you running?

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Much.

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I started with two of these, well, not quite these but I can’t find the ones I have:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hyper-Tough-3200-Lumen-4ft-Slim-LED-Shop-Light/1978917336?athbdg=L1600&adsRedirect=true

Then I switched to two of these

https://www.harborfreight.com/10000-lumen-4-ft-linkable-diamond-plate-led-hanging-shop-light-56780.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=19224063255&campaignid=19224063255&utm_content=147153149889&adsetid=147153149889&product=56780&store=&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwrcKxBhBMEiwAIVF8rEbq4xxhFjKfq1LxsafNaXticKE5y7kjKU79GbyKbMUvo5J2XLkPURoCG-sQAvD_BwE

The color isn’t perfect. While the guavas loved it, my fig leaves looked a little weird, but that may have been mites or something. Seedlings are the least leggy I’ve ever grown, though, again, my pepper plants have a bit of an odd color to them. Everything that I’ve mixed outside so far as hardened off really well too, since it’s not much of a jump in intensity.

Real grow lights seem excessively expensive. I figured I’d compensate with just moar light, and bought the biggest check shop lights I could find.

My wife hates it because even with the door closed it’s like I have the sun itself stored in that room, especially with all four going (the two old ones moved to a shelf for my citrus seedlings.

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I got another tetraploid and a solanum from that eBay seller, my wife is gonna divorce me one day because plants just keep showing up and I keep saying every purchase ā€œthis is the last one, I am out of roomā€

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Our wives should form a club, they’d have plenty to commiserate about together.

Do you have a trellis for those passifloras? You probably have less slug pressure than I do, but regardless, they don’t do well unless they can climb.

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giphy

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I have a small one, but gonna grab a cattle panel I think. Yeah slugs kept eating my maypop last year but it finally got going only to be ate by that host butterfly caterpillar who’s name escapes me. But I didn’t mind that too much. Eventually it will be vigorous enough to support both I think

Luckily she is on board but gotta be irritating with my constant ā€œI have everything I want finallyā€ hundred times later…

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It has at least two host caterpillars. Gulf flitteries and zebra longwings. My yellow passiflora edulis is currently being eviserated by gulf flitteries at the moment. They seem to like my edible passionfruit more than my native corkystems.

What type of solanum did you get? I have a few, hoping my Solanum Sessiliflorum tastes good and handles the summer heat well. It hasn’t been happy with our dry sunny spring so far.

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Yeah these guys, and I mean en masse

I got abutiloides it’s a dwarf. I don’t suspect to love any of the Solanum fruit, as I don’t even love tomatoes; and if not for my wife I doubt I’d even grow them. But solanum seem cool, any that you’d specifically recommend

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https://www.etsy.com/shop/GreenAnoleFarms

This shop has cool stuff, if rare seedlings are your thing. No shipping to CA, AZ and TX so I posted it here instead of the Cali thread. Quite a few things I’ve had to search because I’ve never heard of it at all. That’s why I like tropicals and subtropicals. There is a seemingly endless amount that I’ve never heard of, plus the endless possibilities of breeding hybrids etc

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Apparently that solanum is the same thing as dwarf tamarillo, which I have seeds of. The seeds I got used an old botanical name, Cyphomandra sibundoyensis. Didn’t know tamarillos were also solanums, makes sense though.

I don’t have any to recommend, I have a habit of buying stuff before tasting, and the only solanum that I’ve had fruit for me so far is apparently a bug favorite, because right before they get ripe the whole plant gets devoured (Wonderberry/Solanum burbankii). Other than tomatoes and Everglades tomatoes which are different species I guess.

That website has some good stuff, especially with free shipping.

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