Who's growing Quince?

Thank you @ShiverMinneapolisZ4b

Now I got to find the Crimea!

Burnt Ridge has Krimskaya in stock which may be the same as Crimea ™ as per its description at RainTree Nursery where it may be spelled Krymskaya.

You can call Burnt Ridge and ask them to make a cutting available to you. The owner told me he could make a scionwood of any tree for sale. Mention Krimskaya is missing on their Scionwood inventory on the website:

https://www.burntridgenursery.com/Scionwood/products/94/2/0

See also this post:

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No. “Vranja” is actually Vranjska originally (Vranje is a place in Serbia); it is an old serbian variety (Vernaya is a russian variety).

“J” is always “Y” as in “Yes” (slavic, germanic and some other languages) :slight_smile:

a bit of additional info on Vernaya:

source: http://centralasia.bioversityinternational.org/fileadmin/templates/centralasia.net/upload/Resources/Proceedings_Conservation_and_Use_eng.pdf

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Thank you @ShiverMinneapolisZ4b I’ll give them a call. I appreciate the info.

I ordered some common quince “oblonga” from F.W Schumacher several years ago with the intention of using if for pear rootstock. All the experimental pear grafts failed. I planted a few out to see what they would produce. One of them finally set a fruit this year. I’m assuming it’s something that is grown commercially and processed.

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That does not look like quince to me

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What does it look like to you?

I don’t know. Perhaps Pseudocydonia sinensis from a quick search.

I’m used to Cydonia oblonga having softer looking fuzzy leaves and fruit, without those jagged aloe vera looking leaf edges and whatever those little leaflets are at the base of the petioles.

That may explain the graft failures.

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I agree that those aren’t Cydonia. They do look like Pseudocydonia though.

Well, that’s still a quince. Their catalog is pretty vague, and It’s been a few years since I ordered. I did have it noted somewhere as Japanese Quince

You said “common” and “oblonga”, which is what I mean when I say quince without adding qualifiers. And Cydonia oblonga is what was used historically as a pear rootstock.

? they have both listed as common quince. I thought that they were Asians but the flowers looked different from online photos of Asian Quince and I didn’t realize Asian quince would set a large fruit. I assumed they had sent a Euro quince by mistake. Hopefully they are not blight magnets like the European quince I tried.

I’m really confused by your posts.

When I hear quince, to me that means cydonia oblonga. Its what membrillo, quince paste, is made from and is what Mexicans, Spanish, and I believe Eastern Europeans mean if they say quince.

If I hear “European Quince” I’d assume that is Cydonia oblonga. But I don’t usually hear that term, so maybe it means something else?

I’m not used to hearing the moniker “common” quince, and have assumed that is meant to mean unqualified quince (Cydonia oblonga), meaning not one of the other non-quince with quince in their names.

Chaenomeles I think may be called Japanese, or flowering quince. I’ve seen Pseudocydonia called Chinese quince. Neither of those are quince to my mind.

LIke pineapple guava (feijoa) isn’t a guava. And jujube Ziziphus jujuba, or Chinese date, is not a date.

I’m not a fan of using the name of another fruit in a fruits name :slight_smile:

Don’t get me started on Peach plum or cherry plums, or the apple variety named “Apricot”.

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The one that pisses me off is “Japanese Green Gage”.

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Yeah, somebody deserves some crap for that one. Maybe it was a mis-label that they tried to correct by adding “Japanese”.

I’d prefer that cultivars only share a name if they are sports.

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You’re prerogative.

The distinction is important when it comes to graft compatibility.

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Not only different species, but different genus. I think whoever sold it to you was mixed up about the identity. @murky is not trolling and frankly, I’m a bit put off that you would even make that accusation given how civil he has been.

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Culinarily as well. They don’t taste or smell like each other at all. The texture when cooked is a little different too.

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Quince:

The 2nd picture has quince in the foreground and European pear in the background.

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I agree with both of you. Crimea is great tasting. Kuganskaya is also great tasting. I’m not sure that they are actually different. They taste and look the same to me.
John S
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