DWN’s Z Dwarf is my favorite. Giesla 5 craps out and quits growing. This in my greenhouse.
It’s very nice weather down there but why your fruit trees have to be in the green house all the time?
We had two damaging freezes this spring, late Febr and late March, bloom started late January. That took out all my outdoor stone fruit that wasn’t protected. That’s four yrs running of the same thing. I’ve had some freeze damage nearly every spring since 1971.
In addition we’ve already had two hail storms this spring. We average five a yr.
Those are the major reasons for a greenhouse.
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No place is perfect. Thank you Steve.
Steve, does the hail not damage the greenhouse?
Yes with normal 6 mil greenhouse poly there will be hail big enough to puncture every couple yrs. For several yrs I went with shade-cloth/hail-netting over that for hail protection. Now I have woven poly. It’s much toughter and would withstand any hail that’s likely here.
I have hail netting over the stone fruit I saved outside and over my melons.
Another Nadia fell off soft ripe today. So I took pictures compared to some other fruits on hand. It’s probably about one month later than the apricots pictured. The apricots are ones I protected from freezes outside.
So this fruit tested 23.5 brix, about like the earlier one. The pit was way more plum like than sweet cherry. The pattern of these interspecific crosses, even 50/50 like Nadia, seems to be that they largely take on the characteristics of one parent or the other. In Nadia’s case the tree, blossoms, and fruit are all much more plum like than cherry.
I didn’t particularly like the taste of this fruit. It tasted sweet but also tart. The tartness was more throughout than at skin or pit like Flavorella and Flavor Supreme. If it tastes like a cherry I can’t detect it.
In first and second pictures below from left to right: Nadia, Robada, Orangered, and Dapple Supreme.
These show the cut Nadia fruit and the pit of Nadia, flattened vs sweet cherry, round.
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Turd alert! We’ve all been had. I’ll be interested in what others report back on flavor/etc.
How is Dapple Supreme? I’m tempted to add that.
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Nice report. It’s larger than I expected and considering pluots don’t have any real apricot properties this cross doesn’t appear to have many cherry qualities. I don’t expect it to taste much different than a run of the mill pluot.
Actually I’d say Nadia is a lot like Dapple Supreme taste wise. Neither would rate with my top pluots. The advantages of DS are it fills a void in the pluot lineup and it sets well. But there are better fruits ripening here at the same time. I’ve had ripe Honey Fire and Honey Blaze already. Both are way better than DS.
Hey it has tart it in, I probably will like it, and I can graft other plums unto it, it’s a very good grower here.
Fruitnut,
Thanks for the report and accompanying pics. Pics are always helpful.
Warm, - not a turd yet. It seems we have members growing Nadia all over the country. Like many fruits, Nadia may tastes better in some areas but not the others.
Now we have to wait for all the reports. Unlike Drew, I do not like tart fruit or fruit that have more tartness than not.
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It looks like the plum’s genes are dominant in the first generation hybrids between plum x cherry, and plum x apricot.
For example, the only visible apricot traits in plumcots is the fuzzy skin, otherwise, plumcots look exactly like a plum.
I wonder what a plum x cherry hybrid would look like if the cherry is used as the seed parent.
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Has it ever been proven to even be possible? Can plum pollen even pollinate sweet cherry? Obviously it pollenates apricots to make apriums. Has any controls tests been done with plum pollen and sweet cherry blossoms?
I had two rainier cherries (fruits) that were open-pollinated, probably by shakar pareh plumcot, but then we had strong winds, the pot was knocked over and the fruit got knocked out.
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I would be interested to know if Nadia can be successfully used as an interstem between plum rootstock and sweet cherry scions.
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Any chance a tart cherry could pollinate a Nadia?
I am thinking I could use Carmine Jewel and create one fruit to rule the internet.
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I grafted a stick of nadia to a black gold cherry and another stick to an emerald beaut plum. If they take I’ll use them as interstems.
That’s what makes back yard cross pollination highly questionable. I can hand pack a bunch of Montmorency pollen on a Satsuma Plum blossom but that doesn’t mean Montmorency is the pollinator. Even if there is no known plum trees around a honey bee could have plum pollen on it from over the neighbors fence. Unless you are doing controlled crossing it can be a huge question mark.
I grafted a couple of white gold sweet cherry branches on Nadia. They took and are growing. But the growth is a lot less vigorous comparing to the same scions grafted on sweet cherry. At least Nadia might be used as dwarfing rootstock for cherries.
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