I found an Albindo Black Raspberry (Rubus occidentalis).
For some reason this plant had loss the pigmintation responsible for Deep Black Colored Fruit. Seems to be a rare thing, has anyone else found it too or heard about it?
I found this in a abondened forrest/brush lands between suburbs which already got demolished for more Housing (Thankfully I saved some seeds before the plant died).
The flavor was very delicious just like Black Raspberries but slightly different, maybe peachy (or maybe itâs the color playing mind tricks on me taste buds )?
you should note if the canes also have lost pigmentationâŚas that is how i spot mine.
A couple of folks on here⌠and several on the internets ânameâ theirs like discovering a new thing. Drew talks about his Ontario Wild⌠where as there are ones like âWild Goldenâ and âGoldenberryâ, âSunshine Yellowâ and âMargâs Golden Blackâ for sale by various folks currently. (i think some of these are Himalayan yellow rasps though).
Most all of the black rasps that people find in the wild get namedâŚthere are many hundreds if not thousands that have been named. (black rasps)⌠and the âyellow/albinoâ ones that they find also.
Others named from the past include âCremeâ âDavisâ âGolden Queenâ âFlorenceâ âGold Dollarâ âGolden Capâ âHaskel Yellowâ âKerr Whiteâ âRundellâ âSweet Goldenâ âYellow Pearlâ âAmerican Whiteâ etc etcâŚ
Personally i try to investigate stands of black rasps that are left alone and allowed to thrive for the longest time⌠that is usually the best place to find variations like the âyellowâ black rasps⌠or other traits like larger berries. Seedlings have a much higher chance of mutatating into yellows or larger fruited ones. Often if you gaze around a wild stand you will see under trees where birds have deposited seed that some of these variations occur. Sometimes not far from the main plant where birds fly off and deposit seed.
Thats a great name for your new find⌠âAlbindoâ
However as of this writing there are still fewâŚbut not as many wild thickets of black rasps all over the US where a keen eye and diligence can find their own yellow/albino/brown or whatever is desired to call it. Nature is constantly changing and there are still some to be foundâŚ
Not that rare⌠i have found probably a dozen or so in my locale now that i know what to look for. Its all over the internet so its a very easy search.
Some diligent old timers tried to explain it years ago.
Note that you have found a White Black Raspberry. Albino plants have no pigmitation in the leaves. Truly albino plants usually die very young, they struggle to produce food without chlorophyll. White fruit is just a mutation where something doesnât click on in fruit production, so the pigment doesnât get sent to the fruit (at least thats the laymanâs terms explaination I got). Still very cool, hope it passes down through the seeds.
Oh wow, now are those Yellow Raspberries Rubus ellipticus by any chance or also Rubus occidentalis? Could they also be hybrids between both?
Oh Smart! I do the same thing when Foraging, looking for interesting variations to save seeds from. I did find a weird Wineberry which I thought was a Black Raspberry x Wineberry hybrid but it also couldâve been diseased since flowering times are off sync.
I hope to cross the both together but itâs really amazing to find little hidden gems like this growing wild.
that was a typo altho might aswell be a cultivar name
Thankfully so itâs at least uncommon, still this the only one Iâve ever found that didnât ripen to black color.
Ah yes⌠technically your right as I have observed truly albino plants from citrus seedlings that didnât survive. Perhaps only albino in the fruit trait but we wouldnât call that albino?
That makes a lot of sence, can the same thing theoretically happen to all Rubus species too? How would an Albino Wineberry or and Albindo Yellow Raspberry look like?
I know Albino Blackberries exist but they seem uncommon to rare (Or were more rare in the past).
Yea⌠well I didnât bring the equipment to transplant it elsewhere nor did I come back to remember which one it was, they look identical to the black form. More importantly I did save the seeds (From like 2 berries).
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i always read these when posted