I’ve only ordered rootstocks and budwood from them before, but it’s only like $2 more shipping for a second 1 gallon tree here.
3 gallon tree was ~$42 shipping.
4 rootstocks and budwood was ~$30 shipping.
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I agree just everyone has a different personal definition. I use the words interchangeably mostly
Here is mine, was a little 18inch cutting last year. About 4ft tall now and has a small node growing too
Sorry for being off citrus topic here just wanted to show my cactus haha
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I figured it out. The reason it was so expensive is because I was ordering a 3 gallon tree. Turns out that makes it way more expensive. So instead I got three 1 gallon trees and they all go in the same box. Three 1 gallon trees shipped to the west coast for only $36.
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I hear you. I’m a cactus fanatic. I grow them in and around all my citrus. Do you have the TBM variety of San Pedro? I’ve got lots of those and some others.
Shoot me a direct message if you are looking for any.
This is the TBM, aka The Penis Cactus:
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Me too
What trees did you end up ordering?
Do the rootstock specimens like citrange survive in Northeastern zone 7 without protection?
Silverhill mandarin, Trovita orange and Clem x yuzu.
I’ve been excited about the Trovita since it’s one of the few the I see making sweet oranges near the water in the SF Bay Area
Bob Duncan has also shown them to ripen sweet in British Columbia. Since I’m in a far warmer summer climate than Vancouver Island it made sense to get it.
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So an interesting result in my multigrafted hardy citrus tree. We had a low of 21 on December 6 and the scions definitely acted differently. All of these were grafted this spring on Thomasville citrangequat. The best faring were Uga ichang, sinton citrangequat, and the host Thomasville. The uga changsha, excalibur red lime and nippon orangequat defoliated but wood was still green. Usually the ichang is less hardy but one thing that has been documented is its growth rate. The wood is probably thicker than the other varieties despite being normally less hardy.
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Yeah I’ve noticed that about my ichang lemon. It’s only about three feet tall but dang if it doesn’t already have a several inch thick trunk.
Florida has such beautiful looking weather on paper… but then you get there for a 2 week trip to Disney world and Universal studios and end up getting monsooned on every day for about 15 minutes before the sun comes out to roast you again 
Jeju is beautiful but without the monsoons last i checked. Not as much humidity as well. It’s the tropical vacation spot for most koreans
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July 
i went in July
Florida weather sucks in the summer. I’m a native Cali boy, and do not like the humid heat at all. Give me a 55 degree rainy day anytime.
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West Florida in general (outside of the Panhandle) is dry from late fall into most of spring. Alot of the cities (especially south of Tampa) are very heavily populated by snowbirds in the winter for this reason. Tons of Sun, not too hot, not too cold. East Florida in general is wetter, although still relatively dry in the winter. On average, Tampa is cooler in the summer, warmer in the winter, and marginally less wet overall than Orlando. Lake Buena Vista (aka Disney) is basically the same as Orlando. Orlando however isn’t a coastal city, and doesn’t have that bay breeze to keep it warm/cool.
To make this all relevant to this thread, both Tampa and Orlando are historically right at the edge of traditional citrus groves, on either side of it. Orlando gets just slightly too cold too often to keep a commercial grove operational in the long term. Tampa, in contrast, stays just warm enough, where only the devestating hard freezes that sweep acrosss the entire Southeast affects their citrus. Both cities have urbanized enough that this info, at least for commercial groves, is irrelevent.
Polk county is smack dab between the two, and is Florida’s largest citrus producing county. If you are ever in the area on a clear day in winter, take a drive on Scenic Highway south from Lake Wales to Frostproof. There is a spot where you are like 200ft above sea level, but the rest of the world in front of you is only like 100, and its orange groves for miles. Very beautiful.
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I’m surprised there are any places left in Florida where eyes can still see large expanses of citrus groves. I grew up in Southern California and, for the most part, the vast tracts of citrus are gone. You can still find some isolated places, veritable islands in the desert, far east of the ocean in Riverside and Imperial counties. Sadly, the days where you could gaze upon endless miles of citrus trees, leading down to the ocean, have long since been replaced by strip malls, freeways and high density urban housing. The san-tan stuccoed monstrosities of modernity, cobbled together with featureless sameness, astride sinuous miles of macadam, leading to ever more stuccoed monstrosities. The smell of orange blossoms that used to fill the air during my sun sprent walks home from school no longer remain. Instead the stench of auto exhaust now redolent in the atmosphere fills the nostrils beneath hazy skies. The smell of progress! Don’t ya love it?
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Wow, only 21? That’s really not that cold. Do you think it’s because your temps are still relatively warm in the fall, keeping the citrus actively growing, and thus susceptible to damage from those kinds of temps? I encounter no damage from temps in the 20’s, and people have told me it’s because the autumn climate is so cold and dreary in far Northern California and Oregon. I don’t know if this is 100% accurate, but enough people have told me something along those lines that I am apt to believe them.
I’ve had 24 and none of my citrus have any damage, the kishu, meyer, Owari, Arctic frost and Clementine have no protection. Even the tender growth looks fine, so I agree that is odd. Must have been a duration thing
My citrus regularly take damage from the first frost of the year. Satsumas and Dunstan are the worst for it as they really seem to like putting on growth in October and early November.
Theres quite a few places in Polk, Hardee and Highlands county that are like that. Arcadia down in DeSoto county has also replanted alot of groves in the last 3-4 years. Inland Florida is still very much rural outside of hotspots like Lakeland, Ocala, Orlando and Gainsville. Most of it just isn’t citrus anymore. I saw a dragonfruit farm (grove?) the other day maybe 30 minutes from my house. That was pretty neat.
Coastal Florida (like Tampa, SE Florida, Fort Myers) has like no ag at all. When I lived in Broward county, every cow field was turned into a suburban neighborhood. With the rising popularity of urban and indoor agriculture (and aquaculture) there is probably more now than when I was growing up.
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