The description lists,excellent sticking properties,so it may help.
Are latex based and silicone based equal?
no, but the difference may be minor, but I assume latex is at least slightly better. You can order a jug of Tactic from the source I mentioned for about 80 bucks. I’m not sure of the shelf life, however. I think after even a year it can start to lump up.
Equal in effectiveness?Like I stated earlier,my research into spreader/stickers is limited.There are probably differences,or the spelling will be the same.
Latex is an emulsion of natural rubber,although there may be a way of making it synthetically.Silicone is a man made polymer,derived from silicon.Silicon is a natural occurring element.
It’s difficult to know if what they’re describing is factual or are getting sloppy and using the words interchangeably.
I saw one study on the subject and it’s not a matter difficult to study or very variable like so much in horticulture. It was about relative improved rain fastness and latex based products performed better- I just don’t remember how much better. The guru my source pays to advise their customers and who advises many commercial growers in the Hudson Valley certainly endorses Tactic robustly, for whatever that’s worth. I’m sure he believes it is significantly better as a sticker. But a small amount may be significant to him.
Someone could probably search it up, but google leans so heavily on advertising these days, sorting through it can be a PIA.
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I’m in Italy, so my choices are slim. I live in a farming community with vineyards all around but these people almost completely refuse to change their ways regardless of emerging technology developed in other countries
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My mistake, I said silicone when it should have been silicon
I did my Dormant spray of copper & Oil on my peach trees, as well as sulphor & Oil at Green Tip, leaves are now out fully and I have a fair amount of Peach Leaf Curl.
What would be best to do at this point?
John in Kentucky
More copper, or some other product? If another product, can you tell we what and where to buy it please?
Thank you!
John in Kentucky
Unfortunately there’s nothing you can do once the leaves emerge because that’s when they get infected. You’ll have to wait until next dormant season.
I gave up on copper since they make the concentration so weak in the Country where I live. I used Ziram for the first time this dormant season and I’m waiting to see how well it worked. Other people use Chlorothalonil but it’s banned in Europe so I can’t use that. You can search for peach spray threads, there are recommended spray schedules and recommended chemicals to use
Maybe try a spreader/sticker,with the Copper,like the ones from Southern AG or Hi-Yield.Some people use Nu-Film,which could be a better product.
These should hold the fungicide on the plant surfaces longer than oil.
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I just wanted to update this thread with my results using Ziram 76.
After having zero peaches for the last 3 years due to severe PLC, and not getting any results at all using the weak 30% copper product they sell here, I sprayed Ziram mixed with NuFilm-P sticker at leaf fall (day after Thanksgiving), again in mid Jan and the end of Feb.
I wasn’t taking any chances, so I oversprayed probably.
Results: On 3 trees, I got 2 leaves total with a tiny amount of PLC
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Wow! That’s awesome man. I’m using chloranthonil currently on my peaches and have been looking at maybe switching since ziram can be used on everything I grow from peaches to grapes. I think you just sold me.
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I just planted some grapes too and I plan on using it on them also
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I’ve often wondered why more growers in the Pacific Northwest don’t use Ziram to control PLC. It would most certainly open the variety catalog to a number of great peaches.
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Do you use Chloranthonil at all? Or is that banned in the area? That’s what I use and it works.
From what I’ve read, it’s banned in the EU (European Union)
Use them both, different thing, different times. More thing in your tool box.
@z0r, @Exmil Can you please let me know how Ziram 76DF worked out for you. I’m rather disappointed with my 3 copper sprays and peaches still got shot hole.
He is just reporting it few posts above.
If you want to apply copper for PLC control it is essential that you use it in the form of Bordeaux mixture (copper sulphate + quick lime + water) freshly made.
Presence of lime makes it stick to bark much longer and provides an adverse environment for the spread of fungus.
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