Apples for pies

They also put a chemical on their Apple slices in the kid’s meal for tanginess…bleck.

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Yeah, I posted the more recent articles of content if you follow this thread. Of course, corporations don’t have to be honest when promoting their products and I believe McDonald’s would break no laws if they claimed to be using U.S. grown apples when they really were purchasing dried Red Delicious apples from China for their sugar loaded “pies”. That would be the cheapest way to do it, but wouldn’t make very good PR.

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Yeah. More folks want products made closer to home. The Walmart effect is changing. Cheap stuff from abroad has it’s downfalls.

I sure helped dismantle the equipment in many dozen textile mills in the South. All bound for the Far East.

A pair of the Washer Machines we sold at the time:
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Arkansas black now or later in the year? I bought a crate of them thinking they would be good for December/January feasts. I guess i should go grab a few from the basement to try. My thought was to experiment with them and if we like them go get grafting material in the spring as the local orchard plans to rip out all of it’s trees. Breaks my heart to see the old orchard going. The owner is quite old and the neighbor wants the land.

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Your stew sounds delicious! I do something similar for my husband and I. Eating out is less and less appealing with the poor quality and high prices. Making everything from scratch from the gardens is time consuming but worthy in nutrition and deliciousness.

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Basically from $6 to over $10 just for a greasy fattening meal that still leaves you hungry.

Blame the politicians, and everyone else that had a hand in creating artificial shortages and inflation. (If you get a pay raise, the stuff you buy goes up more. Every time. It’s life.)

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So, your favorite French apple for pies is??

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That happened in France, too. :rage: Wonderful textile companies shut down, jobs lost, abandoned mills and depressed local economies…

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You have to give the reason they shut down. It was because cheap labor overseas made profitable operation in the U.S. unfeasible. One of my cousins was sent to Korea to show workers how to use the equipment. She was “terminated” after returning to the U.S.

Apples, apples, I need more apples. Debating on getting a couple of apples specifically for pie making.

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Sounded interesting, haven’t tried it.
A previous neighbor was a tire manufacturing manager, sent to China to train workers on machines shipped from his company. Termination papers waiting for him when he got back.

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lots of similar stories in this area from folks who worked in the machine tool industry. The CT river valley from around New Haven up through Windsor, VT was one of the principal hubs of precision machine and tooling manufacturing, and is chock a block full of history. The American Precision Museum just north of me in Windsor, VT is housed in the factory in where Windsor rifles were built- considered to be one of the first uses of interchangeable parts. It has the largest collection of historic machine tools anywhere, I believe. Its an incredible place to visit because you. can literally see the evolution of precision as it unfolded in discrete steps.It really kindles the imagination and reminds me of being a kid and asking my dad how things were made. His answer of “in factories with machines “ simply led me to ask how THOSE were made. Other machines…American Precision Museum - Wikipedia

the story is more or less consistent here- First the small companies were bought up and consolidated by speculative investment firms with next to no interest in machining. The last 20 years most of these places were in business were spent exporting machinery, tooling, and know how to oversees “partners”.

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‘spice’ sounds like an interesting one. I’m surprised no one has mentioned the big boys Pound Sweet and Wolf River. Dry flesh is definitely a boon when it comes to pie, and its nice only having to cut and peel an apple or maybe two. Mutsu/Crispin is another massive one which Im partial to, but its pretty juicy for pie Id think.

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Duties on imported goods got eliminated … and that is the thing that made production in America no longer ‘competitive’ like it had been before ‘free trade’ deals and giving China “most favored nation” trading status about 30 years ago.

As usual, there are winners and losers as governments play in rule making.
Certain exporters, got rich but more foreign exporters made lots of money than the amount made by American exporters…the amount of ‘stuff’ in both directions increased, but disproportionately in favor of foreigners having no EPA and cheap labor.

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Stews are the most efficient thing to make because they taste just as good out of the freezer so you can make huge batches all at once. Really thick bone broth is a ticket but what amazes me is what they charge for soup bones these days. This time of the year I guess you can get all the bones you need if you know any deer hunters. I buy all my chicken meat in whole chickens and save every bone. This time of the year I cook them with charcoal from my wood burner.

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Keep in mind that we’ve also offshored a lot of our industrial pollution, which is killing Chinese citizens by the thousands and gradually poisoning their ground water. .

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So, you like any particular apple best for pies?

Obviously, Granny Smith is a good pie apple. But any apple that’s a little bit acidic and doesn’t turn to mush is a candidate for a pie. I’ve probably made more cobblers than pies…frequently use Arkansas Black or winesap, but I do experiment from time to time using anything I have.

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its true, we can and perhaps should pine for the good old days, but you could find a lot of these historic manufacturing sites with a map of EPA superfund sites. There are several nearby, plus untold numbers of “brownfield” sites. The local landfill, no longer in operation, is one. Its on the banks of the CT River (naturally!) and is totally unlined. Its leaching pretty much every toxin imaginable into the river- petrochemicals, dioxin, PCB’s, heavy metals, etc. And thats just the stuff that was hauled away for dumping. Im sure much of it was “dealt with” on site.

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Most people don’t worry too much about industrial pollution until it is their own wells and streams that are poisoned.

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Reinette Gris du Canada. I grow it. An excellent cooking apple.

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I have two. Calville Blanc and reine des Reinette.

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