Cleveland pear is a cultivar to Callery. You can find more info in this thread.
Thanks for the thread, I just finished reading it and learned a lot. It seems that my plan on using my Cleveland as a rootstock for some pears and asian pears is a feasible option.
Absolutely! you won’t have any problems.
I’m no expert here, but I grafted over a couple of my ornamental pears for the most part. I left the 2 big branches in each to give us more privacy from neighbors, but the rest I went crazy on. I mean, pears are easy! Yeah, it’s a mess, but that’s what pruning is for, right? Bob Purvis, as I recall, told me that he was concerned about more fire blight grafting onto an ornamental. I started this a couple years ago, and so far I haven’t noticed a problem. It may just be where I live.
Nice looking tree. No FB on my muli grafted pears onto CP for 9 years now. So go crazy grafting!
You might want to read through this topic Top working Pears weather permitting and this one Favor for a friend - Top working Pears! and this one Callery pear as rootstock? prior to topworking over your Cleveland aka callery pear. Ornamental pears are about the best rootstock there is in many situations. Callery rootstocks can survive where other trees cannot!
Thanks for the topics to read, I’m learning a lot just reading these threads. Looks like I am going to be trying it this year.
I was reading some information from Texas A&M AgriLife Extension Service which stated that for where I am in Texas (just north of Austin) the best varieties would be:
European hybrids: Ayers, Warren, LeConte, Magness, Maxine, Moonglow, Orient, and Kieffer.
Asian varieties: Shinseiki, Nijisseiki, Chojuro, Hosui, Shinko, and Shin Li
I would like to do a Korean Giant. So I am going to whittle down my list to probably three European and two Asian.
Here is the tree that I am going to be grafting onto.
Sounds like a great plan! If you want pears fast I would stay away from warren , Ayers, magness etc.
In zone 8a many people plant pineapple and others. @coolmantoole,@fruitnut, @k8tpayaso, @wildscaper etc. can give you good suggestions on pear varieties for Austin.
Good point! But those are some really good pears to have when they get around to fruiting. In the mean time, I grafted Kieffer, which are great for canning, and got them the next year. That’s what’s so great about grafting… you get lots of varieties that each have unique qualities to them.
I agree Warren are top quality pears but you might not live long enough to eat them. Your grand children will love them! Hence the saying “ pears for your heirs”. Please don’t take that literally but they can take 15 years+ on callery according to some reports.
LOL!.. “pears for your heirs.” I knew they took awhile, but 15+??? Yikes!!!
I’m going to be pruning my pear which I think is Orient. The reason I say think is that it was tagged Kieffer but bore pears this year that were absolutely not Kieffer but looked like Orient and ripened the same time as Orient. It did bear pears for me on second year after purchase. If you want scions from it I will send some but if you want to hold out for a sure known variety I understand.
I don’t think they would take that long in Texas but I waited 12 on a pear to produce here. Some pears like Harrow sweet you pick in a year. I would take @k8tpayaso offer.
Yes 15+ lol it’s hard to believe but read this post Is it worth it to grow the Warren pear. I grafted to a 3 year old tree in 2016 so only 9-10 years to go for a decent crop.
Well I’m glad I grafted them, but now I’m thinking that I grafted too many of them!
And generally speaking, isn’t grafting supposed to speed up the process of getting fruit rather than simply waiting on it from planting a tree?
Yes it does speed up the fruiting process. Let’s say you got a 20 year old callery and graft it to warren you would be eating pears in 3-5 years. Some trees are stubborn! I have a callery with Clara frijs, Ayers, and clapps favorite I grafted over 5+ years ago and I’m still waiting on fruit! The tree has a 4” trunk and is 10+ years old! Those 3 pears spurred up finally so I will get fruit anytime but remember that tree was 5+ years old when I grafted and 10 years old now ( actually 11th year). @Auburn did your Ayers ever fruit? Rootstock has a big influence on pears because I have another Ayers on 333 which bloomed the first year in the ground. Most people growing European pears on standard rootstock have no idea they are signing up for a 10-15 year wait depending on soil type, weather, and variety of scion and type of rootstock.
I have picked a small amount of Ayers for about three years now but the limbs have never set a big crop. I was looking over an Ayers limb yesterday and it appears to be loaded with dormant fruit buds.
Mine looks like it’s loaded with tiny fruit buds also. We will see what happens.
I’m getting a lot of information for you guys, so thank you very much. I’ve decided that I am going to graft the Warren and Kieffer. I don’t plan on ever moving again, so I have time.
@k8tpayaso thank you for the offer, but I am going to hold out and see if I can get a confimed Kieffer. The Kieffer is one that my wife remembers as a child, so at a minimum I want to have that for her.