Sign me up if it continues to grow like this and you end up making clones
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Weird, but my tip-rooted Triple Crown survived the Winter, while the parent did not. My thornless Loganberry also survived 2x -7 nights, and one -5 night with almost no damage.
My Anne seems runted and may need replacement, but glencoe is growing stronger than expected.
Ok, that sounds about exactly the same what I do with blackberries, except that I only rarely summer prune new growth, if the plant doesn‘t make enough new canes, and I already cut the old canes directly after harvest in hopes of less disease spreading.
How long will the canes of Jewel and Glencoe get? Also similar to blackberries, or less?
What happened to your Glencoe?
Canes never sized up much… small berries like the link i just posted.
They have been selling them at all my box stores for a few years and im sure most all over the US…not to mention just about every nursery sells them… hard to believe the crops and videos and pics are so obscure.
Winter-kill often feels random. There’s often no telling what stressed the plant enough for the long cold to finish it off. Maybe it fruited too heavily and didn’t have enough accumulated sugars to survive the winter, maybe there was some cane borer damage you didn’t notice, maybe a vole had chewed the roots in late fall.
I had a lot of winter kill here in Texas which kind of surprised me; I think our low was 16 if I remember correctly? All of the old thorny erect varieties were perfectly fine though… go figure.
I guess i’m the opposite of you @krismoriah - my glencoe grows and fruits very easily here without me even trying, but I’ve now given up on Bababerry. I got multiple orders of very healthy looking plants that all died, and then the massive crown you sent me sprouted a primocane and then that died too. Bababerry just refuses to grow in my back yard for some reason 
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Man, that’s fascinating. I’m also in zone 8 in NC. Glencoe survives but has never looked happy. Bababerry I only just put in last year but it’s already my biggest, healthiest looking raspberry.
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That’s my glencoe’s story also. Long thin canes. It’s sort of one of my newer ones, so hopefully that will change as it ages.
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Jewel is a good tasting black raspberry but I’m growing Bristol instead now specifically because it has better flavor.
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Jewel canes grow 4-5ft and Glencoe canes grow 5-6ft when planted in the ground and not summer pruned (tipped).
Summer pruning increases fruit yield in the following year, same as it does for blackberries.
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My in-ground ‘Jewel’ grows main canes of 12-15 feet long. I prefer let the thing grow rather than topping at a short height. These long canes need additional summer support as breezes and simply the weight of the upper cane can cause kinking.
Decent raspberry descriptions.
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Is there a compact blackberry variety that would be suited to growing in pots?
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babycakes blackberry.
Ponca from the University of Arkansas program is pretty compact.
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Can you clarify what you mean by summer pruning, so we don‘t misunderstand each other?
When you say summer pruning, I assume you mean cutting the tips of of the new canes when they are around knee height, in order to encourage branching out. That is something I would only do if my plant produces less than 4-5 new canes. If it does produce enough new canes, I don‘t see how summer pruning would help, but I am open to learn something new from you 
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Superlicious Blackberry from Monrovia is also a dwarf variety for containers, which I’m trying this year. It’s a bit on the pricey side, though. Hopefully it becomes more widely available and for a much lower cost in a few years.
I like the size and flavor of berries on Baby Cakes but new growth is very fragile and while it produces a lot of flower buds, few of those become fruit. Tomato cages have worked well for me to prevent new growth from breaking off the canes after rain and wind or simply bumping into it.
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The advice from Indiana Berry for summer pruning (tipping) black raspberries is to break off the tip of the cane when the plant is knee high. Personally, I like the canes to grow to 3ft before tipping so the fruit is easier to reach. Since the flowers and eventually fruit forms on the ends of the canes, tipping to encourage lateral growth increases the number of ends and therefore potentially increases fruit yield by 3-5X. Tipping at knee height is also helpful if you’re looking to propagate the plant, which produces long laterals during the rest of the growing season.
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got blackberries and raspberries in from isons:
blackberry:
Prime Arkansas Freedom
Ponca
Natchez
Triple Crown
Ouachita
Apache
Navaho
raspberry:
Joan J
Himbo Top
Double Gold
Polka
Caroline Red
this one is questionable but will probably work out fine:
are yall cutting the shipped cane back to soil level after initial planting or nah? isons doesnt mention it, nor has anyone else on here, but indiana berry says to. jury is still out.
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