Newp, the only thing I’ve cut back has been kokanee because it came with fungus. It’s from Etsy though, not any of those nurseries
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There is no right or wrong way really. If you are undecided then do it both ways and report back. Grow one with a handle and one without.
If you dont think these guys know what they are talking about then do the opposite and go with what others say…
I have no use for a short floricane handle myself… but i do respect that some folks may have a use for it or get some kind of enjoyment from it.
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@krismoriah have you any updates on purple dream, sodus, or the other one you were rooting last year for purple raspberries?
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Sometimes i come on here and i feel like a bird looking for everyone’s berry photos and reading all the berry posts lol…
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I failed at rooting the cuttings. I only got Riwaka Boysen to root and its doing well.
Next spring it would be nice if someone got these obscure brambles going again.
https://www.ortgardens.com/shop/unrooted-small-fruit-cuttings/WE2DZOH43NFHZRXYOSL6YGH3
Unless someone wants to visit Ort Farms and get live plants… the cuttings are trial and error for me.
I root semi hardwood pcanes… but they sell dormant fcanes. So maybe someone is better than me at it.
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They have the hard to find varieties of yellow raspberries…
I’ve been fighting with myself on putting some non-red raspberries into the ground. The ones i really love but man…
My last experience with spreading raspberries was a nightmare from the neighbors lol. She planted them by the fence and my garden beds were there… by year 3, they found my garden beds and the nutrients from them and shot up EVERYWHERE. Especially in the garden beds. They congregated in my garden beds and i could not get them out no matter what i tried. It was a Fantasia 2000 with the brooms and Mickey nightmare. I don’t know why but that scene in that movie always stuck with me and has always been a nightmare to me. And i had really bad nightmares of it as well… that’s how i feel with what happened to me the last few years on fighting with the neighbor’s floricane variety that i had 0 patience with. Plus they were really small and thorny and most canes died to the ground except where she protected it so i never got any fruit… if this happens to me again, i am the only one to blame for my own actions 
Currently fighting wild blackberry here but so far, I’ve won the battle in the piece of my front yard that I’m using as play area for the dogs and tiny human. The next fight is in the garden beds area 
thankfully they don’t look as vigorous but I’m worried about them finding my beds as well…
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speaking of spreading out of control, I just ordered a big metal pitchfork from amazon and am gathering up the courage needed to try to wrestle with that blackberry plant from the ebay guy he labeled as “rosborough”… it spread in a way I can’t even describe, and the berries are half the size of my pinky nail. Wish me luck
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what is your take on Illini? is it one to look out for?
The plant patent for Prime Jim claims that the primocane fruits were 12% soluble solids. This has been our experience. The floricane berries are fairly tart, and the primocane berries are sweet.
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Yes!!! This was my experience with my old neighbor’s raspberries too! She got it online and forgot the name of it. They were also very, very tiny not “everbearing” as they stated since it was floricane only, and extremely thorny but the hard type of thorny that’ll hurt you when you try to grab it. However also spiny-thony like wineberry thorny, not like kiowa thorny and they hurt sooo bad! She was duped and they when they found the garden beds, they spread like crazy as well. They would grow an inch or more a day and the roots went so deep. I was only ever to break them off since i could never get under my beds.
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New recruits for this year. Crimson Treasure, Crimson Night, and Jewel. Hoping I scored some good ones, as the crimson series does not have many reviews.
The nursery still has Crimson Giant that I didn’t buy. Undecided on that one as it’s supposed to be a late variety.
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You can look out for it but its gone from the trade as far as i can tell. It doesnt root from root cuttings and tip rooting is dang near impossible. I have had a fairly high percentage of cuttings take root and shared with a few members on here… so hopefully they will share reviews at some point.
Its not as good as Ebony King (here) to me.
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If anyone wants to get into thorny blackberries… i have these going except for ‘Meadow’ I have Farmhouse growing next to my farmhouse myself… and Super Hardy (Fort Kent King) in my ‘blackberry patch’. Feel free to send me a ‘Meadow’ if you go thru with it for the heads up… or we can trade something.
Early in the year, went to Walmart and grabbed raspberry and black berry. I picked the thickest cane possible. The thorn-less black berry (still hibernating) was the size of jumbo pencil and the raspberry (leafed out) was pencil size. No other cane came close to the size of that black berry. I thought I make a mistake because it was slow to leaf out.
Both berries are flowering and chance of fruit is high in the same year. Happy about that. Both was planted next to the metal square fence that I made this year and next to the drive way. They are already making new cane. Yeah, more food.
no description at all on the website or am I just blind?
I wish they would describe the back-story of where they came from, and a picture of what they look like bearing fruit… or at least their growth habit
How are they?
Are they potted or being dug?
From two Joan’s I got this spring I cut one and left the other long. Cut one sent up new shoots a week before the other, but both look the same now. My n of 2 says it’s irrelevant.
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where did you get fort kent king? ive never heard of it before. how is fruit size, taste and productivity? i wonder if it came from prof. Garfield king who taught at the university of maine at presque isle in the 80’s. he discovered the stacyville pear, a sour cherry and other fruit not thought to be growing this far north. all used to be sold by fedco and st. lawrence nursey as well as a few others. i was raised 7 mi. from ft. kent and went to high school there.
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You and i discussed it a few years ago…
Super Hardy aka. Fort Kent King is sold by Elmore
https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/nafex/2009-05/msg00629.html
I believe Elmore got alot of their stuff from Fedco years ago and still have going some things that Fedco has dropped… not sure really.
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I think on the pots you have to pick them up there… they shipped me bare roots.