Blackberries, Raspberries and Hybrids

Farmhouse is doing good…its in flower now. The Ft Kent King is a wild selection…not really worth growing for you and me.

I have no doubt that the ‘Meadow’ is another wild selection… some of them can be very worth growing…

Here is their description ‘Fast growing with prolific berries under minimal care. Originated at Elmore Roots!’

Crimson Giant is the only one of mine that’s died… i don’t think it’s very cold hardy this one. Either that or it doesn’t like water

The on line descriptions say it’s not very winter hardy in colder zones.

If that’s the case then i wouldn’t get it below zone 9 because I’m 8b. It did get down to 11-15 for about a week at night where I’m am. I left it in the front yard which seems colder than the backyard because the backyard citrus that i left exposed to the elements because i ran out of room inside, did fine under my back porch. According to the water i put out to gage temperature in the backyard cause i keep forgetting to buy a thermometer for the back, it doesn’t freeze even when it hit 20 degrees when i leave the lights on lol. However my front yard will freeze. At the usual 32.

All my raspberry plant plugs from last year are alive still and doing pretty good… except Crimson Giant lol

Does Glencoe produce on primocanes as well?

Getting mixed searches on this one and the tag says everbearing…

Alright fruit sleuths, identify this blackberry.

Middle TN zone 7a/7b
Full sun all day
Next to a big hot driveway
Fruits only on floricanes
Thornless
Purchased from Nourse Farms 8+ years ago
Very first blooms of the year on May 1st.


What variety is it?

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Lets see when it ripens and go from there… along with fruit shape… could be alot of things.

Alternatively and im not trying to be a smart alec… but search your email for the invoice. Alternatively if you deleted it you can call them and ask what you bought then.

I have had to revisit my emails on many occasions myself…

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Oh, I tried that already. No luck.

Most purple and black raspberries are floricane fruiting, including Glencoe.

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I’m going to randomly guess arapaho… maybe natchez

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hmm…forgot about that.

What you wrote is true for 95% at least of commercial varietes :sweat_smile:

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I thought my fellow Tennesseans might be able to narrow it down with bloom times and variations in freshly opened petal color. Long-shot.

Glencoe is everbearing. It’s a cross of black and red.

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Glencoe is not an everbearing variety, but grow it yourself and find out.

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I have it, but if you google it’s labeled as everbearing.

Not everything you read on the internet is true. :man_shrugging:

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Mine has yet to fruit, so I’m not speaking from first hand experience, but all the on-line nurseries have it listed as everbearing. Hoping it’s everbearing, that’s why I bought it.

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I think everbearing does NOT mean fruiting on primocanes (and additionally floricanes of course), which to my knowledge is a trait common only among real raspberries Rubus idaeus cultivars, and very very few new blackberry varieties.
I think everybearing means that the fruit ripen over a period of 8 weeks or more like many blackberry varieties, and unlike regular floricane summer-raspberries which ripen over a period of 4-6 weeks.
Please correct me if I am wrong, but I don‘t think there is any primocane fruiting hybrids

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Hi, My information says that Glenco is Floricane fruiting but thornless, which unlike ‘Royalty’ whch is also floricane but thorny. As it happens, I have just bred a thornless primocane fruiting purple raspberry but the fruit quality is not as good as I want it to be. see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jERvF_qs57A

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