Blackberries, Raspberries and Hybrids

I have identified another thornless, primocane fruiting, purple raspberry. This one is from and F2 seedling. It has 50% Black raspberry and 50% red raspberry but is light purple. The dark purple raspberry is a backcross to red, so is 25% black raspberry and 75% red raspberry. You would think that the cross with more black raspberry in it would have darker purple fruit but this was not the case. This is why I love breeding, there is usually something that turns up unexpected.

Purple PF T'less Raspberry ex F2_1

Purple F2 Raspberries._1
It is not as strongly primocane fruiting as the dark purple, which makes sense, as black raspberries are more floricane fruiting. The red raspberry I backcrossed to, is very strongly primocane fruiting.

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I got a jostaberry at HD last year from this brand. Very healthy!

Also my Walmart just put out their plants today and I got a few Ebony King blackberries per @krismoriah.

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If the plant you got was from a white plastic bag, i don’t know who that supplier is but they’ve sent out mislabeled plants for years. I wouldn’t trust it to be the real ebony king. That’s how some of us got wineberries lol

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wineberry is crazy to send to people. its so invasive. its a major foraged food for me because its just freaking everywhere in the woods.

So jelly all of you have plants at your stores! I keep seeing home depots empty garden center :frowning:

Easy to tell it from a wineberry. Green cane with some ridges. Usually the spines are removed.

If you have access to Meijer the ones i visited over the past few years have Cheyenne blackberry plants.

Menards usually carries Darrow.

Strange how it works but each carry these old vintage thorny blackberry plants.

I have also seen Ebony King at Lowes.

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My Darrow from Isons never broke dormancy, I’ve gotta replace that one. Might grab one from Menards, if those are true to their name. All three of my Honey Jewels from ION never did anything either. The rest of my plants did ok, it was a very dry summer so not the best for establishing new plants.

I’d like to get cascade gold, honey queen, and Ilinni hardy. Haven’t started looking around yet, I had to replace tires on both of my vehicles so extra money for plants has been scarce.

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wineberry is actually one of the fully illegal plants to sell in New York, so I wonder what would come from some sort of mixup like that in ny. though i kind of feel like i saw wineberry at home depot last year just straight up labeled.

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illegal here too but ive seen people growing them. so are blackcurrants, autumn olives and seaberries but folks growing them as well. seems like the more illegal it is, more people want to grow it.

My experience with Darrow over the years were disasters. First ones were virus infected so no berries. Most recent one has tiny berries. Still trying to eradicate that one. Never again.

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Is a 20 gallon growbag big enough for two loganberry plants for 2 or 3 seasons? I have 5 20 gallons (which isn’t as big as I thought) and was wondering what I can squeeze in together. I assume its not big enough for 2 loganberries and a yellow raspberry.

I have each bramble in a 20 gallon grow bag. Most brambles will naturally multiply in their container- I don’t see an advantage to having two logan berries in a single grow bag

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