Blackberries, Raspberries and Hybrids

Im about to find out this Fall. This is my first full season with the TAMU releases and all of them are very thorny. Also my first removal of spent canes from Healthberry which is like dealing with something prehistoric.

I dont need them really much during the year but the removal of spent canes from trellis puts every movement in danger.

Im sure that there are many brands and types of gloves out there better than my Black Stallions…but they are just so comfortable…especially after 5 years. I have several styles of Tillmans also but they are not in the same ballpark for comfort.

For the wild ones im sure a good long sleeved shirt and a pair of Chinese work gloves from a farm store would be plenty good enough.

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Jewel apparently can “occasionally” have a few primocane fruit

Per the Niwot patent, they used Jewel as a comparator

jewel

I have seen it once when I first planted them and got a very small fall crop but not since

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Interesting… I had both mature Jewel plants fruit late summer. The latter one produced almost entirely “conjoined” berries with two separate fruits kind of fused together. Anyway, doubt they’ll do so every year but were a refreshing treat this year.

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heat stress

Double berries (“conjoined”) happen when it is very hot (so more common in high tunnels in peak summer)

let’s see if it happens next summer if they do it again

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I had a couple doubles on my Anne raspberries this year. Heat causing it would make sense.

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Anyone know why my Caroline raspberries look like this? Not all the canes are doing it. Some are normal.

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Looks like sunscald to me.

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Agree with @krismoriah

White Drupelet Disorder (aka Sunscald); huge unseasonally record warm temps 2 weeks ago (high temps, less humidity, more UV)

if the berries didn’t develop evenly, I would say tomato ringspot virus

You can still eat the berries but the white drupelets start to break down very quickly and don’t last at all

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Prime Ark Horizon… some of the earlier ripening. the full load looks to come on in a few weeks… October??

I let the primocanes go and they are at about 20 feet and fruiting on the tips… i wont do that again. However the floricane crop should be excellent.

Fantastic flavor… sweet then a nice dollop of tart. Big juicy berry…if u like them in late Sept/ early Oct.

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Bob Wells is having a little sale on some berries and fruit trees…if anyone is looking for Rosborough or other plants this time of the year for Fall planting.

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I ordered Rosborough and Kiowa from bob well’s nursery and didn’t get either one. What they called Rosborough produced tiny little berries with a horrid taste that I have since pulled up. What was supposed to be kiowa produces a small crop of small to medium sized berries that taste ok. I will never order from them again. Your mileage may vary however.

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I ordered from them a couple years back and again this spring. The things they sent me this Spring all had Dave Wilson Nursery tags on them. As far as my orders…it looked like they are retailers that buy things wholesale.

If you want Rosborough from another source PM me.

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Triple Crown and Navajo from NC.

Grower states that bigger fruit due to very heavy pruning in winter gives very compact plants and less yield but larger fruit.

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holy crap! kinda like thinning fruit trees. interesting!

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Ive looked the pics over and see a top wire at about 3 feet?..kind of looks like the weight of the fruiting laterals are making them droop to the ground the way she has to hold them up.

Possibly trimmed to about 3-4 foot in the winter as it looks like she is holding them at eye level.

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see if you can find out pruning specifics from her. im interested in keeping my plants small anyway to protect them in the winter. curious how she does this. much rather pic fewer big berries and less smaller numerous ones anyway.

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She is a FB influencer…she drops these pics then makes everyone ask a billion questions. I got the pics from her canning page where she has a big following but she bombed a few other groups to get them to go to her canning page.

I filtered out the best info that i could…and the best answer she gave was that she pruned very hard in the winter.

So likely these are all fruiting laterals off of a very short main cane.

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so she cuts the floricanes very short in winter then in the spring the laterals grow off of them and fruit the same summer?

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Yeah i guess thats the jist of it… The FB rule is to do the opposite. Pinch or top early to encourage laterals… which will increase yield… as more cane length of combined laterals will of course lead to more fruiting laterals the following year… More gallons of fruit no doubt…

The pics earlier in this thread of the black raspberry pruning that i said i wanted to try makes the most sense to get these sized berries in such small quantities.

A single plant that only has 50 berries…im guessing that they would be pretty darned big with all the energy available as well as full sunlight and lots of hydration.

You can also get some very pretty and massive berries if you irrigate during the whole fruiting cycle… they will taste like junk but look pretty.

Same applies to most fruits.

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:grin: Krismoriah I have to confess I saw the large berries and thought I hadn’t figured you for a “goth-blue painted nails” sort of a guy!

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