My jewel’s have been very well behaved in ground. It’s the only variety that isn’t actively trying to take over, also my only black raspberry.
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The key is keeping the Jewel canes and laterals pruned so they do not arch back down to the ground and tip root, unless you’re looking to propagate it. Similar growth habit to most blackberries.
I’m in Deep South La and every year my PAF plants come alive in February. First flowers starting to form now.
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Okay from experience, can everyone post the raspberries that haven’t spread much for them?
I myself, really want to put some things in ground and it seems others may want to, too but we just don’t have the capacity to try to manage a forest of pop ups.
Royalty purple other than color to me is one of my favorite raspberries. Purple rasps dont root sucker. Brandywine is becoming a favorite as well.
If i wasnt so much of a collector and into trying everything i would probably be content with just Royalty and Brandywine for rasps…
If i lived in a climate that was much drier in the Spring Amethyst would likely be a contender. Here it is fickle with bursting berries full of water and lack of flavor in wet springs. I did have one dry spring and they were very good.
I have failed at Glencoe. It just doesnt do well for me. Pics of fruit are hard to find… so maybe its not just me. They dont look very special to me at least.
On my new to me Josephines… the bare roots i received had about 100 tiny root suckers forming… i have read where it suckers profusely. Which is handy for sharing plants or extending rows… but mostly a ton of work with thinning and fighting spreading.
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Black rasps grow wild around here and they don’t spead. We have one that stays perfectly tame in it’s habitat in the middle of our lawn.
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Glenco purple raspberry tip roots.
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well everything tip roots, I think we are just worrying about underground spread that causes canes to spread through your backyard like wildfire (at least I am)
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mine suckers readily but only goes 2-4’ from the mother plant. they are super productive with big berries. they are better in jams than fresh eating. i mix them with my reds .
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anyone ever heard of this monster called Keriberry?
timestamp is 10:04
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Not introduced other than in Australia/NZ/Tasmania…and sold in nurseries there.
Most info from growers is on the Heritage and Rare Fruit Network (Australia) FB group.
Native to Indo-China.
Australia and NZ etc are also very fond of Youngberry which is all but gone here in the US and also not really worth growing (the thornless representation).
(the last i saw of Youngberry was sold by Hirts in Ohio… and also found in some garden centers in Columbus Ohio… and at a couple of obscure nurseries in California)… it also went the way of thornless Youngberry (not sure how)… but likely was just thornless Boysen that was misrepresented.
A fairly recent pic of Youngberry grown in Australia- (looks like thornless Boysen to me)
Youngberry (thorned)
Young as described is a maroon berry sweet with excellent Flavor.
So a better quest would be to find the original Youngberry.
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Phenomenal Berry… not sure if i got this vendor going with them or how they got them. Anyways its a good thing that they are back available on the open market.
(they spelled it wrong).
https://www.etsy.com/listing/1669997350/phenominal-berry-plants-2-per-order-bare
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that looks almost exactly like what ended up growing from the “siskiyou” that Planting Justice sent me. But it didn’t have much flavor. I still wonder what that actually was
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Could have been Black Butte. It took me a long time to get Black Butte from PJ… PJ got it from a small nursery in California.
Black Butte also sold by Willis but is actually Kiowa. (confirmed fraud).
Im going to try to bring Black Butte back to the public at some point.
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I got a Coho raspberry today but found out it’s one of the latest ones and suckers a lot as well as a floricane which I’m not fond of having to trellis. But it does have some qualities that are attractive like the taste and firm texture(I think that’s a plus right?). Late isn’t good here because of Swd lingering around.
Suggestions- What the best earliest and easiest raspberry to grow? Can I grow in a container? I don’t need it super prolific and it does get really hot here in 9b. Or should the Coho be good enough to keep?
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@nil …a couple winters back my loganberry canes (trellised on cattle panel) all died when our low for the winter was 3F. 50 ft of canes… all dead.
@krismoriah … that bed of Apache looks a lot like my illini hardy.
TNHunter
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Does anyone have suggestions for how to cluster my brambles together? Vigor, thornless/thorned, height, ripening times, etc.?
Personally, I think I’d rather group them based on vigor, as I feel they should all reach similar heights, I just don’t want to put a meek berry in between two bullies
I plan to have several raised beds (4x8’s) and each variety needs to have a neighbor. Ideally, each 4x8 will have 4 varieties.
My estimates:
- Cascade Gold (thorns) (low vigor)
- Caroline (thorns) (high vigor)
- Jewel (thorns) (low vigor)
- Thimbleberry (thornless) (??? vigor)
- European dewberry (??? vigor)
- Joan J (thornless) (High vigor)
- Anne (thornless) (Low vigor)
- Glencoe (thornless) (High Vigor)
- marionberry (thorns) (Low vigor)
- tayberry (thorns) (low vigor)
Is this accurate? (By vigor, I hope to express how much it will try to take over its neighbor’s space. Maybe vigor is the wrong word, please correct me)
Or will it become impossible with nearly any variety to tell which cane is what variety after some years?
there’s no way those will stay contained inside your raised beds, they will spread everywhere - which is fine as long as you’re expecting it
I also don’t see how you will tell them apart after a few years
one other thing to keep in mind, that marionberry can grow like 15+ foot long vines with needle sharp thorns!
Not trying to discourage you though! I say go nuts with it
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Have you already bought those plants?
I think if it were me i would grow in pots vs mixing together in a small raised bed…
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I’d go by that. Some are going to spread way quicker than others.
I wound up putting all mine in pots as well. Much easier to control the animals, insects, and the plants.
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