Bosc deserves some love

I personally don’t think Bosc is anything other than another great pear. The one advantage is it is more meaty than a lot of pears, e.g. Bartlett is more watery as opposed to the meatiness of Bosc. The flavor is very good but not in the very top group for me (Magness, Urbaniste, Dana Hovey, Seckel, Aurora). Well, it also looks really cool. Dana Hovey is a meaty pear that is more flavorful than Bosc and which also looks very nice. If it was bigger everyone would be growing it.

I actually have a Bosc now, I bought it on sale as a last-minute pear rootstock. But the graft failed so now I have a Bosc. Its never given me any fireblight problems.

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I don’t find much info on Urbaniste. What’s the story on that one?

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That is what I love about it, as long as it’s ripe enough to not be crunchy, I also like the type of flavor it has, especially when it’s very sweet.

I just read up on ‘Dana Hovey’, it does sound great, I am wondering how ‘Bosc’ and ‘Dana Hovey’ could be if hybridized together. Since I clearly like meaty yet softish pears, that are very sweet. I like Seckel, I had some Seckel pears in 2023, that were not properly ripe, and yet I had wished that I could have bought more. I could only imagine how good they would have been properly ripe.

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Here is the Pears of NY description:

Urbaniste is another variety desirable for home use because of its highly-flavored fruits so sweet, rich, perfumed, and luscious as to be a natural sweetmeat. The fruits are of but medium size and not particularly handsome, but the taste excels the looks. The flesh is as tender, sweet, juicy, and as delicately perfumed as that of Seckel or White Doyenne, but with a distinct flavor and scent which give the fruits the added charm of individuality. The crop ripens in October, in a season when there are many other pears, but the fruits stand comparison with those of any other variety and are welcome additions to the fruit-basket. The trees have several defects, chief of which is tardiness in coming in bearing, to remedy which grafting on the quince is recommended. They are also susceptible to blight, and are not as hardy as might be wished. Of all pears, the tree of this variety is one of the handsomest clean and tidy, slender and graceful, yet robust and productive. Fruit and tree make this a valuable variety for home plantings.

Urbaniste originated as a wilding in the gardens of the religious order of Urbanistes, Mechlin, Belgium. After the suppression of this order in 1783, their gardens remained uncultivated for some time and produced new seedlings of considerable merit. The beauty of one of these attracted the attention of Count de Coloma, a well-known pomologist, who acquired this property in 1786, and in due course propagated and disseminated the variety under the name Urbaniste. Early in the nineteenth century, Count de Coloma sent specimens of the pear to the London Horticultural Society, which organization afterwards distributed it in England about 1823. Thomas Andrew Knight sent cions to John Lowell, Roxbury, Massachusetts, through whom it became disseminated in the United States. The American Pomological Society added Urbaniste to its fruit-catalog list in 1852.

Tree medium in size, vigorous, upright-spreading, slow-growing, productive with age; trunk slender, shaggy; branches stocky, shaggy, zigzag, reddish-brown, overspread with gray scarf-skin, sprinkled with numerous lenticels; branchlets long, reddish-brown mingled with grayish scarf-skin, smooth, zigzag, glabrous, marked with conspicuous, raised lenticels.

Leaf-buds large, obtuse, semi-free. Leaves 2 in. long, 1 in. wide, thin, leathery; apex taper-pointed; margin finely serrate; petiole if in. long, slender. Flower-buds short, variable in shape, free.

Fruit ripe in late October and early November; medium in size, 3 in. long, 2 in. wide, obovate-obtuse-pyriform, with unequal sides; stem 1 in. long, short, thick; cavity obtuse, shallow, narrow, faintly russeted, furrowed, slightly lipped; calyx open; lobes separated at the base, narrow, obtuse; basin shallow, narrow, obtuse, slightly furrowed; skin thick, tough, roughened by the russet nettings, dull; color pale yellow, often with a faint russet-red blush on the exposed cheek and marked with nettings and patches of russet; dots numerous, small, russet, conspicuous; flesh tinged with yellow, granular especially around the core, tender and melting, buttery, juicy, sweet, pleasantly aromatic; quality very good. Core closed, with clasping core-lines; calyx-tube short, wide, conical; seeds medium in size and width, long, plump, acute.

It takes awhile to get into good production, I would say that is the main downside … it is similar to Magness in that regard. It is also on the small side, bigger than Dana Hovey but smaller than the standard pear size.

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Has anyone tried the variety ‘Beurre Bosc - Golden Russet’? It’s PI 637986

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Very nice!

We have a bosc, gotten locally during a “buy 2 get 1 free” sale at a nursery.

It has grown very well for us in a pot, only reason it is not in the ground is I have not decided where to plant our pear trees yet. We got our apples in ground finally and now need to work on an electric fence.

I hope we get nice looking bosc fruit like yours someday.

I never decided to have so many pear trees but somehow ended up with quite a few trees, not sure how that happened.

I do know that I have come to appreciate pear fruits more than I used to, those red clapp’s favorite pears really turned a corner for me, delicious!

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17 years ago I and a few others purchased several Golden Russet Bosc trees in a volume buy to save some $. Only 1 of my 2 still exist while FB and critters wiped out the trees everyone else had. The one here that died didn’t look good from the start. Having said all of that, 3 years ago I grafted the remaining tree over to Onward because the Golden Russet Bosc never developed any flavor. Prior to getting wiped out by FB, I had several bushels over several years from one of the guys who participated in our group buy, and they were excellent.

On the plus side, Golden Russet Bosc in my northern PA climate crops regularly and well. Impressive looking fruit. Unfortunately it’s like eating the Red Delicious of pears here for some reason.

I have an 11 year old Bosc on a different site here, but it hasn’t produced anything for comparison yet.

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Yes. It went down in flames with FB last year. I thought the fruit was good while it lasted.

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I bought Beurre Bosc from Millers Nursery (they’ve been gone how long…?) along with Clapps Fav and Colette, all on standard rootstock (probably OHxF97). I’m a Zone 4b, and the Bosc died back to just above the graft in it’s 3rd or 4th year. It has come back, but still hasn’t ever set a bloom. It’s around 14 years old. I have grafted to '97, '333 and quince at the orchard. I think it’s unlikely to fruit in this climate.

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So it’s a fireblight sensitive sport of bosc then,

I was just reading a post that you wrote, mentioning in part that you have an unknown sport of bosc, how is that one doing?

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Part of it was grafted over, but it turned out to be also a russet bosc. It’s alive though. Some of the others above said their trees got FB as well.

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Has anyone tried the bosc sport ‘Bosc - Bronze Beauty™’

Has anyone tried ‘King Russett Bosc™’, not sure if that one is a sport

There is also ‘Beurre Bosc - Gebhart Russetless’

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I impulsively bought a BOSC on OHxF 97 at an Amish market about 12 years ago. At first I was worried it would get too tall, but over time it proved to be a runt for some reason. Other pears on OHxF 333 quickly outgrew it, so I dug it up and replanted at a different location. It continued to grow very slowly and is still only about 8’ today!

Last year it finally produced some flowers and 2 fruit. The fruit wasn’t as good as I hoped, but I’ve come to expect that for initial crops. It did confirm that it is indeed a BOSC, but I still have my doubts about the rootstock being OHxF 97.

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My Bosc is only 8 feet tall after 20 years. But bears about 40-50 big pears each year. I thin off 80-90% of the fruit each year. It’s only missed one year since I started this post in, I think, 2015. It had a small amount of fireblight one year. No insect pests. A bit of bird damage. The fruit this year were beautiful.

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Bosc is also big, good while firm, but a big window of texture that taste good and has phases of unambiguous ripeness with aroma.

Seckel I still need to guess if it is rock hard or perfect, and its eating quality is degraded when it is soft. But yes, awesome when it is at its best.

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What rootstock?

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I don’t have any idea. But all my trees are small. Goldrush on MM111 is even smaller. Dry climate, weak soil, no fertilizer, not much chilling. All things that keep trees small.

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