I’m exited to give this plant raising protocol a try. I’m looking forward to follow up and learn how to turn the dormant plants into bareroots and heel them for the winter, but let’s not get ahead of ourselves here…
I’m going to make 2’ by 3’ boxes. the total height will be 10.5" tall, 9" top to mesh, about 8" soil depth. The question that I have is; how much air gap should I build in? If it is say, one inch, is there a chance that the root will try to jump such gap?
I’m wondering if there has been a systematic look at the ideal air gap amount. A lot of the info out there seem to be folks repeating one another.
Heck I’m going to build two, one out of cedar, one out of plain pine. I want to see how the pine one fares over time compared to the more water resistant cedar.
What are you planning to grow in them?
This would be a factor on how deep to build. I’ve used mine for Persimmon and Pecans so far, Pawpaws next.
I started out with a couple 2x2.5’ ,2 2x6’s stacked for 11” depth. I built the next generation a 2x4 higher.
Between it sinking and debris, grass, leaves etc. I don’t think an inch will cut it for the air gap.
Here is my first attempt, after a few years of use.
Repurposed old wagon for wood. The boards sticking up were for a chicken wire fence to keep squirrels out of the Pecans. Little buggers swiping nuts as I built the fence.
Latest prototype, 30”x56”x16” tall wood. Got the metal rack on Marketplace added some supports and tabs to hold the hardware cloth up and the wood in. Hoping to get some soil in it this weekend.
I really like your original design; very practical and elegant based on the dimensions of the materials at hand.
I have a few nice pieces of 3/4" thick and fairly wide pieces on both cedar and pine. I also have 2x4 in cedar and pine. I’m going to build a box each of those materials; as a side experiment I want to see how well pine holds compared to cedar. Hopefully I’ll be able to post a few photos by Sunday.
How is water retention on these? I guess it depends on the soil but do you find that they dry out fast? I don’t use perlite a lot but it with these it seems that a healthy amount of it should help.
Mark I is going to be 10 1/2" tall based on the width of three 2x4 pieces, actual inside working depth will be around 9 1/2". As stated this is Mark I; I’m looking forward to learn on these and that alone is a win. I’m sure even if I have need for something deeper that these would serve well for some plants, or even seeds.
This is one I built for rootstocks. I planted last year and I am just getting ready to graft. 2x12s for depth and straw bales over winter to keep from root damage when below 0. Top to keep squirrels and birds off the grafts.
Very nice!
My gen 1’s didn’t have enough support on the outside edge of the hardware cloth. Seems like your design covers that. That much dirt gets heavy.
Looks like your rootstocks did really well. @don1357 Holds moisture pretty well. The outside dries out the fastest and plants too close can suffer the consequences. I’ve been using native soil with Peat mixed in to lighten it up a little.
Yes, that is a lot or weight in dirt. You could move it with a skid loader and pallet forks, but there isn’t no moving it around other than that. Graft this year and next spring take off two side boards on one side and start separating them out to transplant. I’m anxious to see what those roots look like.
I built my Mark I boxes, these are 12" x 30" inside dimensions. I’m thinking that eventually I’ll standardize to 18" by 24", based on where I want them, ability to move them, and to double duty them as cold frames.
At first I wanted to use the 6" mesh but what they had at the hardware store was garbage; ridiculously thin and rusted enough to be structurally unsound. I walked around until I found something I could use, which was fiberglass rods you stick on the ground. The actual mesh just rest on the bottom so I can change it if I don’t like how it is working.
I also built one out of cedar, another with plain white pine.i want to see how much a difference it makes.
I put some hay at the bottom to help hold the mix, about 30% loamy screened soil, 50% well cured horse compost, 20% perlite. It soaks water and drains like a champ. I then proceeded to load 50 Willow cuttings and about 15 second-tier haskap cuttings, the ones with sub standard root development that were not potted earlier. They can swim or sink there.
I picked Willow because even with sub standard effort I should get a high survival rate. I want to see what sort of growth I get in one season, both for top and root development. Part two of the experiment is to pull them all once they go dormant and to heel then as a bundle for potting next spring.
While I have some haskaps there I don’t think that they are well suited for an air prune setup, their root system is more shallow and mat-like. Then again I’ll get a chance to see what they do.
I made some small 1x2 air prune boxes last year and fall sowed a bunch of various seed I had. I then covered the tops with hardware cloth to keep the rodents out and buried them in a wood chip pile for the winter. This spring I have seen some decent germination.
I like the small size so that I can easily carry them around, they also stack up neatly. I’ll prop them up on rocks and/or bricks to get the air gap.
We have a super short season here, I want to do a small scale backyard nursing, and I’m trying to develop techniques, equipment, and a workflow that will work with those parameters. The plan is to have a variety of suitable trees doing a first year on these boxes, then pulling them out and bunching them so they can be heeled for the winter. The boxes are then loaded again with the next year’s batch. Once the next spring comes both boxes and bareroots (to be potted) are brought into the greenhouse for an early start.
What kinds of wood have you used for your air-pruning bed? It seems like treated lumber might poison the soil and hurt the seedlings, but untreated would rot too quickly. What has your experience been?
I was just thinking about finally getting around to building some of these last week. I went back to the source where I first found out about them and to my delight there is an updated video. Shaun from Edible Acres has some advice in this video:
Those look great. I will take a pic of mine when I split them out this spring. Mine are probably 15-16 deep too after the dirt settled. I need to fill mine with dirt a couple months ahead of time to let it settle. I watered a few times last year hoping it would settle the dirt, but it appears on mine that time does a much better job of settling dirt than a few waterings.
So any reason not to make small versions of these out of buckets with the bottoms cut out and some screen on the bottom? I was thinking it would make them easy to move around, etc., but wasn’t sure if wood sides that dry out a bit help keep the roots pruned better. Maybe roots would still circle aroudn the sides too much in plastic buckets?
I just bought some 55 gallon food grade containers for 5.00 a piece with the thought to do that. My plan is to cut them in half, giving me two beds per container. Here’s one of my plans:
I’m also going to try cutting the barrel in 3 equal piece. Then I’ll painstakingly have my sons ( ) drill a lot of small holes in bottoms of the two pieces that have solid ends to stimulate the hardware cloth. I am planning to use the leftover middle piece to help support soil for a stool bed… If this works, it will be the plan that I default to since it will give me the most use for my money.
Honestly the main principle is the air underneath, you can hack them in whatever way works for you. Mobile ones should be as heavy as you can handle, or as big as you need, as deep as your variety need, and a fixed one should allow you to clean underneath and do maintenance.
Once you do a run on one you’ll know what you would like to change on the next one.
I mainly made big air prune beds so I could keep up with the Kansas drought. If I made small beds, I would have to water every day in the heat of the summer like I do my containerized fig trees. I opted to build something that I can get by about 3-4 days without watering during the most windy hot stretches of summer. I also planned on keeping my grafted trees in there for one winter before planting out, so I thought bigger might be better for winter root protection. If neither of these things are an issue where you live, I would definitely go smaller.