Caroline vs Anne raspberies

Spring fever started. I was in HD and couldn’t resist to buy one Anne and one Caroline raspberries. Now I need to babysit them until the weather is warm enough to plant them out. The question I have is which one has taller canes? As usual, my place for them is tight, so it will help if I know which one is growing taller than another to plant them in correct order. Also, which one is hardier than another, as I plant them on terrace, and the one on the edge may have the roots colder in winter(5B) than the one planted on opposite side.

In my location ‘Caroline’ is a more vigorous grower including taller canes.

Sorry, I am in a temperate area and don’t have any useful information for you.

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they are both hardy here. although caroline is quicker to grow, the canes are about the same size. both need trellising when they fruit. canes are 6-7ft. so far the best everbearing variety for short canes here has been joan j. they get about 4-5ft and stand without a trellis.

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I have both here in KY. I planted an Anne a couple years ago, I got it at Lowe’s. I planted a Caroline last year from Indiana Berry. Neither plant has really tall canes, no more than 3ft, but they are probably not in the best location, but they also are just getting established too. We have seven other raspberries that survived the summer as well.

I will say that Anne puts out lots of suckers, more than the Caroline, but it is also a year older.

They both gave a few berries last year, the Anne was pretty good, had an apricot like taste, but there weren’t really a lot to sample. The Caroline was pretty tart, but again, not many to try.

This year I’m going to hit them with a good dose of fertilizer and see if they can get going. Compared to my new blackberries, they look pretty puny.

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My Anne is very new, but I’ve grown Caroline for a long time. It gets about four feet tall here, in a bed that is basically all quartz rock. I’d picked the large bed location before I knew it was all rocky after the first six inches! She has also spread way out of bounds.

Caroline tastes so good! Very intensely raspberry flavored.

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anne has big berries but is a sparse producer. caroline has big berries also but produces gangbusters here! too bad its too late to get a full crop before frost kills it . anne is even later.

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I have both varieties, but neither amounted to much in 2018. Maybe it was too dry the second half of summer.

rasps. do like quite a bit of water esp. at fruiting. about the only time i give extra water is when they’re ripening fruit. 4in. of wood chips helps keep them moist but still allows the roots to breathe.

you have a long enough growing season that you could always try topping the canes at 4ft. it will make the plants produce little later but will also produce more berries on the laterals the canes send out. would make the plants you have more manageable for smaller spaces. good luck!

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OK, just to make sure I know what you talking about… I have ever-bearing Red Fall raspberries that produce two crops. I top the primocanes at 3 ft (below the line where they produced berries in fall) somewhere in November. They overwinter and become floricanes and grow side shoots in next spring and produce first crop around June-July. In the mean time new primocanes come up , and when first crop is done, I cut floricanes and primocanes start to grow fast to about 6-7 foot tall and start producing berries somewhere in August and continue till frost.
I thought both Caroline and Anne are ever-bearing, so I expected the same pattern. Was I wrong?

You may not have either if you bought from Lowes/Home Depot. I was at Lowe’s a couple weeks ago and they advertised, with a picture, Glencoe as a red raspberry.

That is a different story)

Just googled Glencoe. Apparently, there is Glencoe Purple and also this: (Raspberry, Glencoe - Raspberry Plants at Burpee.com)

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i don’t keep the primocanes for a florocane summer crop. i just mow them down in late fall and harvest just the primocane crop. easier to manage the canes and the summer crop on florocanes usually isn’t worth it. although if you tip your primocanes , the extra laterals produced may produce more fruit than untipped primocanes would. I’ve read about this but haven’t tried it myself. i may have to experiment with this. it may make your patch unruly to have all that growth in there at once. these cultivars send out ALOT of suckers!

At least for Red Fall the floricane crop is really good, and what is most important, not affected by flies. The fall crop I usually freeze and after that use for vinegar - it is only way not to get nasty worms in your vinegar wort(if it is the right word :blush:) For the suckers, I try to control them by leaving few most strong primocanes, about 3-4 per bush. I also cut everything that grows “out of place” (between rows or outside the bed), unless I plan to transplant them. Also, keeping floricance I guess slow plants down - they have to feed first crop, and that is what plants usually put their energy into first, then into grows. You should try it once, may be on couple bushes…

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well… knock on wood, we haven’t seen swd here yet. when they do show up i will either do what you are doing or remove and replant summer bearing cultivars. I’m already starting to take steps by putting in newer high production summer bearers like ACC eden and cascade gold this spring. right now i have autumn britten, polka, joan j , jaclyn, anne and caroline. my favorites are autumn britten and caroline for flavor. anne is good too but it is a sparse bearer here so i may pull it . my patches are over 5 yrs. old so i am over run with spring shoots. its a daily job to keep them thinned and in place. i till around the rows with my tiller every week until july to cut any roots that want to spread out of bounds. still have to prune dozens out of the rows themselves. raspberries grow like weeds up here.

Same here… But I think they grow even more is you disturb the roots. I am not even sure if what I have is SWD, but there are plenty others nasty small flies that love raspberries and other berries here. Back home, (Russia) we had raspberry beetle, that placed it’s eggs in the berries. I was so happy to know that it doesn’t leave here… But flies make it even more buggy :grinning:.

They are my two most vigorous rasps that I grow. For me I’d say Anne produces a little more. They both sucker quite a lot and like to sprawl all over the place. I like the taste of Caroline better. I just prefer red heads to blondes I guess. :slight_smile:

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they do grow back from the root pieces. thats why i till weekly so they keep getting cut and buried until they die.

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