Controversial opinion: the focus on gigantic pawpaws is insane and hurting the fruit's popularity

On second look, I think it’s just lumped as similar because it’s also a Thai mango, not for taste or texture, but I think lack of strings, another benefit of the Keow Savoy

At this time I’d year, i see stringless yellow mangos in the stores. Anyone know what they are?

I’ve only grown Sunflower and PA Golden among grafted varieties of paw paws, but my first trees were seedlings and they were not good, nor were the selected seedlings that Edible Landscaping claimed were as good as named varieties. Just too much seed and not much pulp.

You seem to be describing over-ripe paw paws, they all ripen while still firm. Taste contests tend to be bogus IMO, because fruit ripens at different times but the administrators of taste tests often include fruit past or pre prime to provide more interest. Also, quality often varies a great deal within a single tree of the same variety. The only accurate way to judge a variety is grow your own and tell us what you think after about 10 years.

Not that I have the discipline to wait that long when I’m smitten by a great new variety.

Next year I should get to sample some Shenendoa paw paws- am curious if they will be bitter free. I won’t wait 10 years to let people here know my opinion.

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Shenandoah tastes mild, milder than most. Some people may find it boring but I find it pleasant.

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What is your favorite?

I have not eat enough varieties of pawpaws to form a good opinion. I have had only Shenandoah, Sunflower, Mango, Wabash, Susquehanna.

I like Shenandoah. To me, Shenandoah is like vanilla ice cream. Some people may find it boring but it is pleasant and satisfying.
They all have bitter aftertaste that I can detect, some stronger than others.

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I got two random seedlings. Reading this tread, I am happy I did. I enjoyed so much the ones I tried first along the James River, I took my entire family the next year and we all feasted on pounds of them. To me they are as perfect as they are in the wild. I do understand the metallic taste can be off putting but we were all very familiar with soursop so it might be unfair to expect everyone liking them as they are.

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Do you cook them for your ice cream? Or are they still raw, just processed?

I harvest the pulp into ziplock bags which I freeze until wanted, then let thaw and put in a food processor before mixing with the other ice cream ingredients. Otherwise raw, no cooking involved.

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@kybishop I made great ”ice cream” when I was in Malaysian Borneo, just a bag of fresh coconut milk from the market and very ripe jackfruit, diced. It was great.

What’s your recipe if it’s no a secret?

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Heh, nothing too fancy. I make a custard the day before with whole milk, heavy cream, egg yolks, and sugar, then mix in the pawpaw the next day. Sometimes throw in a glug of vanilla extract. After that just throw it in an ice cream maker :slight_smile: Any general custard recipe should work, and it works even if you don’t get it all the way to 170-175.

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Thank you.

Actually it sounds like my mother’s icecream except she uses a little honey and then Maple syrup to substitute for the sugar, and we’ve never gotten more exotic than coconut milk, certainly no pawpaw.

If you like Shenandoah you’d enjoy KY legend Titan. Huge mild fruit, good flesh density and zero bitterness. I think how a pawpaw is grown influences flavor to a degree, including harvest and post harvest. Chapell and Pompers Choice are also better than older selections. I grow a lot of pawpaws but I don’t really eat much of the Susquehanna crop, flavor is just too strong, but it works well in icecream for chunks. I’ve had pawpaws that were really bad and really good. Overall regional harvest is still pretty low for now.

Top worked a seedy tree planted in 2020, reworked to Pompers Choice and KY Legend Titan.

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Thanks. Where did you get scionwood of the Titan?

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Legend came out of that last Lehman batch of seeds that were in his fridge when he passed.

Anyone try fruit from those other ones that Cliff grew out yet…1, 3, 5, 7, and 11?

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@mamuang I bought the scion from Woody Walker spring of 24’. Tasted it at Cliffs last fall, Woody brought up a cooler of them for sampling.

I dont feel like I have had enough of the other Lehmen trees to have a good opinion. Tried one or two of them one time maybe.

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Here is how to contact Woody Walker Pawpaw Planet / Walker Pawpaws - Pawpaw List

Here is the facebook for his nursery https://www.facebook.com/WalkerFruitTreeNurserySpartaNC

They sell “Kentucky Legend” here pawpaw trees for sale

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I think that maybe you have discovered a new variety put it on the Internet describe it as a unique smell. You will probably make a fortune.:wink:

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I wish we had courts for trying crimes like this. :neutral_face:

You could have donated it to people fighting cancer, or let someone come get it for free, it’s the most cancer-curing fruit in the world.

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Actually I donated some of the seedlings to a public land reserve.

For the fruits from the only remaining tree, I ate some (just a bite or two to taste) and gave some away to friends. Most went to composters.

I don’t know the curing cancer ability of pawpaws and I don’t want to mislead anyone.

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