European plums and hybrid stone fruit for Ohio, zone 6b?

Im looking for folks that are growing european plums/gages and hybrid stone fruit that actually reliably produce in Ohio. Im right up on Lake Erie. I have a couple dinky blue damson I bpught a few years ago from Tractor Supply that Im going to dig up and throw in behind my pond so they can decide if they will ever fruit or not :upside_down_face:. For other plums, I have santa rosa that fruits even though the deer wont leave that tree be, and a 3+ year old toka that is probably 12 foot tall and barely puts out a single blossom. Any pluots, plumcots, pluerries, etc that produce well for anybody in zone 6? Ill throw in a spring satin next spring because I can easily find those locally. Also, what nurseries are we buying from that have decent sized, quality trees? I wont spend another penny at Stark Bros with the crap Ive got from them, and as much as I love One Green Worlds awesome selection, their trees have been very small for the price. I love Isons Nursery, but their selection is minimal and Ive already ordered most of what I wanted from them(nice sized quince and jujubes), but I am eyeballing their pluerries, but I wanted feedback to see if theyll produce in Ohio first. Thanks!
Eta: Im not as big of a complainer as I realize this post makes me sound like. I have many trees, berries, and grapes that Im grateful for :rofl:

Some ideas here-

More ideas on this FB group-
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I am growing just about every Euro, Japanese, Hybrid and otherwise that exist in WV… i will struggle with Black Knot, Plum Curculio and Brown rot etc etc etc… (probably/maybe/likely)… so YMMV.

As for nurseries… i have ordered from all of them i think coast to coast.

If i had to pick one it would be Mehrabyan. The other choice would be Grandpa’s Orchard.

best of luck to you.

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Ohhh Im glad to see someone that has ordered from Mehrabyan. I was checking out their website, but wanted to make sure they were trustworthy. Did you get whips from them, or was there any branching? I struggle bad with whips other than the natives I get from the local county soil and water conservations lol. Im thinking of trying a couple pluots just to see if they produce. We have a hard time with plum curculio. I only wanted to use organic methods, but these pests have wiped out the fruit on our mature apple trees for the last 4 years since weve owned our property, so we will probably have to try something stronger next year to kill off some of them. Ohh Im in that facebook group also :slight_smile: I bought my grafted paw paws from someone in that group. Also, have you had any luck with your nikitas gift and ichi ki kei jiro persimmon? I got an ichi ki kei jiro from Stark Bros 2 years ago and it was straight up trash. Still had graft tape on it and didnt even look healed over yet. Didnt make it through the winter. I just got a really nice size yates and burton morris on walmart clearance a couple weeks ago. Im going to look for prok next year there

I ordered a plum from them and it was a very high quality tree and has done very well … highly recommended! I think others here also had good luck with them.

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Thank you! I just added an oullins, bluebyrd, and Empress to my cart. Glad to hear the quality is good because the prices look like some of the best!

I would definitely plant a Greengage, Reine Claude or Cambridge, are the ones I have experience with and have always produced plentifully and reliably. I think most green gage varieties would work well. The fruit is superb.

Thank you! Where did you purchase your trees from? And how long did they take before fruiting?

Raintree European Plum Trees — Raintree Nursery

and Reine Claude Doree

But if you can find cheaper elsewhere - do that.

If you buy a two year old tree it probably takes two to three years to start fruiting.

Checkout the thread Green Gage: The Holy Grail Of Stone Fruits

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I am in Zone 6a/b (depending on the year), in CT. If your area is not bad with spring freezes (that zap blooms) I would highly recommend the following, which I like more than plums:

Flavor King pluot
Flavor Grenade pluot
Flavor Punch Pluerry

The following Euro plums have fruited very well for me, and they are high quality (note that Euro plums do better with spring freezes):

Coe’s Golden Drop
Vision
Golden Transparent Gage

Bay Laurel nursery is excellent, has lower prices than most other nurseries and sells the above hybrids. The Euros can be had from Trees of Antiquity, except Vision, which is sold by Mehrabyan and ACN nursery.

All these plums are fairly vigorous, and I would not worry about the size of the tree I am getting. Apples are a different story, as they are much slower growers.

If you have room and are into ecosystems and diversity also think about cherry plums/myrobalan or others like Nadia etc.

Thank you for this idea! I actually had planted out a hedgerow of wild american plum on the backside of my property, but half the row looks like it had died or been eaten by deer. Im going to finish off the row with these

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Thank you!