Everything you always wanted to know about growing pistachios and no one told you

Hi again Yousef.
After reading one of the documents from the El Chaparrillo Agrarian
Pistachio Improvement Center.
It is one of the most important centers worldwide.
I am 99.9% sure that it is a Zinc deficiency.
I show you the document translated into English (it would be rude to translate it into Arabic in an English-speaking forum), if you need it translated into Arabic, tell me and I will send it to you translated by private message.
Even so, you must apply via irrigation a complete deficiency corrector, which among other elements contains Zinc, and chelated for rapid absorption.

The document :






Best regards
José

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thank you very much for this info ! I will start with this

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we added supplements and they are doing much better !! thank you again

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Sorry to bother you again, but perhaps you have a list of the values ​​of what the soil should have, because we want to have the soil analyzed

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Hi Yousef.
Pistacea Atlantica is a fairly rustic variety, which adapts well to all types of terrain, and is quite resistant to root suffocation.
In Spain it is completely out of use, for a simple reason, it emits a lot of branches (a lot of wood) and little fruit.
Surely in your country you can buy pistacea terebinthus in nurseries, and it is an “INFINITELY” better rootstock for pistachio than pistacea Atlantica, especially in calcareous soils with high Ph.
My advice is to stop fighting with pistacea Atlantica and use pistacea terebinthus.
The size of the tree grafted on pistacea terebinthus is smaller than on pistacea Atlantica, so its planting framework is lower, it tolerates drying conditions perfectly (without any irrigation).
I will take some photographs so you can see how my pistachios are this year, I do not water them at all and my climate is totally arid, with very very little rain per year.

Best regards
Jose

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I am in a high desert region in the northwest USA. Washington State but the east side of mountains, we get little to no rain in summer and heat up to 110F up to a month. growing season is about 100-110 days give or take. we are very dry climate and at about 2K elevation. the area ranges from full sun to partial sun.

winter is very cold, down to -20F.

I have a space next to my own area in which a friend and neighbor wants to plant nut trees; we have put hazelnut along our property border and they’re asking if almond and pistachio can be grown here. I don’t know about the California varieties as our winters are so much colder, but maybe these European varieties may be better suited?

she is younger, much younger than me, so I think we are willing to grow from seed or seedlings if necessary for import reasons. although if there’s a certified way to get young trees I think I could convince her the cost is worth it (I am in my 50s and would enjoy seeing food from them myself! as I’ll be doing the planting and pruning and such)

do you have any advice @Jose-Albacete on options for us? or an idea where to begin a search for such varieties? or even to discourage us if it seems they would not thrive here.

Hi Angi.
The powerful winter cold is not a problem at all, since the pistachio requires many hours of winter cold and is totally resistant to strong frosts (it likes the cold), the problem is that it is a crop that requires many hours of heat .
Pistachio flowering is very late (from the end of March to the first half of April), but the earliest varieties are harvested in mid-September, and the latest in mid-October.

So I already know that you more than meet the requirements for cold hours, and I just need to know if you have a good temperature from mid-April to mid-September (it needs 5 months of good temperature).

Once you know if you have enough heat hours, we can talk about rootstocks and varieties.

Best regards
Jose

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oh yes, we have repeated heat waves through the summer. our last frost is mid May usually, then it immediately tends to get into very hot days. those will last until mid October, we get our first frosts in October each year usually though there have been “late” years more often now.

same length of hot season,a month later than you say- instead of April-Sept, we get May -Oct

the heat is sustained and plants that do not like dry heat simply die here.

edit: 80-90F all of July, 80-100F all of August usually, a week or two up to 110F. air conditioning is a necessity here. it is very dry and can get high wind as well during these hot months.

Hi again Angi.
You are describing to me the absolutely perfect climatic conditions for growing pistachios:

  • Very cold winters with hard frosts (it’s perfect)
  • Warm summers
  • Little rain in summer, with dry climate (essential for pistachio)

This is like the Bible, if you don’t grow pistachios and almond trees it’s because you don’t want to.

We will start talking about rootstocks.
In the United States, before the great boom in its cultivation in the state of California, the rootstock that we use in Spain “Pistacea Terebinthus” was used. This rootstock is fantastic, because it has a medium vigor, the trees are medium sized, very productive, and its plantation framework is small.
Why was this rootstock not used in the United States?

Very simple, and it is because in the United States (especially in California), there is a tremendous presence in the soil of the fungus Verticillium Dahliae, which causes the disease Verticillosis, to which the Pistacea Terebinthus rootstock is not resistant, and the trees they died
Fortunately, the United States is not like China or Russia, which limit themselves to copying technologies and replicating all kinds of things from occidental countries (including plant species).
But you are in a country where there are people who think a lot hahahahahaha, and the agronomist engineers from the University of Davis in California started a hybridization program of different species of pistachio rootstocks, until they carried out the crossing and selection of Pistacea Atalantica x Pistacea Intergerrima, giving gives rise to a rootstock resistant to Verticillium, very productive, that is the rootstock UCB-1 .
For my region it is not suitable at a professional level for several reasons:

  • High irrigation requirement
  • Large fertilizer requirement
  • Huge planting frame

I have some trees grafted in UCB-1, and the lion is not as fierce as they say, it is true that it is more vigorous and makes larger trees, but it is not a huge thing either.
So we already have the chosen rootstock, which will be UCB-1

For sale here at an astronomical price:

It is necessary to look at more nurseries where to buy UCB-1 rootstock, for 3 dollars more or less (2 or 3 dollars would be an acceptable price).

Now let’s talk about the varieties.

I would recommend starting your plantation with good short-cycle (early maturing) varieties, but you are in the United States, and professional varieties are difficult to obtain for amateurs.

Imagine my case.
I am a good friend of Jose Francisco Couceiro Lopez, the pistachio technical engineer at the El Chaparrillo Agrarian Improvement Center:

https://chaparrillo.castillalamancha.es/pistacheros

Where there is a germplasm bank of pistachio varieties that will be one of the largest in the world, to which I have access as if I were at home, for that reason my collection of pistachio varieties is immense, I know many varieties, which I have been tested over the years.

They are in United States a new female and his male pollinator

  • Female: Gumdrop
  • Pollinator male: Tejon

That for you would be incredibly good, what I don’t know is if it will be easy to buy some already grafted plants of this variety.
If you could buy some female and male plants of this variety, it would be really fantastic for you.
The proportion of females and males for good pollination is 8 or 9 females to 1 male.

These two are very good (and I like them more).

Females:

  • Golden Hills
  • Lost Hills
    Pollinator male for both varieties:
  • Randy

There are countless varieties that would be suitable for you, such as:
Females:

  • Larnaca
  • Sirora
  • Aegina
  • Mateur
  • Avdat
  • Etc…
    Male pollinator of all these varieties:
  • C-Special

For now, if I were you, I would start looking for a nursery, where I could buy some plants grafted onto UCB-1, of the Golden or Lost Hills varieties, and their male pollinator Randy.

If you can’t find a humane way to get these varieties in a nursery, write me a private message and we’ll talk.

Best regards
Jose

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I worry about the irrigation needs, will these varieties need a lot? as I say it is so dry summer here. I will look into these and message you if necessary!

thank you so much for all of this information. you have been so helpful

Anji, in my region every drop of water counts, for this reason pistachio is grown grafted onto pistacea terebinthus, because it is totally and absolutely resistant to drought.
I have never watered my pistachios and my region is extremely arid and dry.
To give you an idea. A pistachio grafted on UCB-1 would have an irrigation requirement like a peach tree or any other stone fruit tree, since it is not as resistant to drought as pistachios grafted on pistacea terebinthus.

A pleasure to help you.

Best regards
Jose

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ah I wish I could use the drought rootstock, I don’t know how my neighbor will feel with irrigation and might it end up with me watering them myself! I’ll need to speak with her before deciding

Anji, if you choose pistacea terebinthus as a rootstock, I don’t think you will find seedlings in the United States, so you should buy seeds to germinate them.
They need a pregerminative stratification treatment with moist sand in the refrigerator, for at least a period of one month, and later (when the ambient temperature is suitable for planting in forest albeolar trays) it is necessary to place the seeds between a damp cloth at room temperature. at least a couple of days.
This way the seeds will germinate perfectly.
In Spain there are specialized stores with the highest quality pistacea terebinthus seeds.

I’m going to show you some photographs so you can see how arid my land is, and how my pistachio trees are, without watering absolutely anything for years, only whit rainwater in winter and spring.

These are just some of my pistachio trees, if you enlarge the images you can see the clusters of pistachios.

Some trees

Clusters of pistachios

Best regards
Jose

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I think starting these from seed will be the solution. as we are that dry, in this region generally and also in the area they will be growing! she does not want to water or irrigate the place so I would have to run rain water there to get them established.

I will look for seed sources or potentially seedling available to import if possible. thank you again so much for the photos and information on these varieties

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@resonanteye I think you’re near Spokane. If so, I’d say your growing season is too short and winter extremes too cold. Commercially pistachios are only grown in the warmest areas of NM, AZ, and CA. Those areas have twice the heat units of Spokane. A few days of 100F isn’t enough.

But I could be wrong.

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You are right Steven, and long cycle varieties like Kerman are absolutely not recommended for states with summers that are not excessively long and hot.
Therefore, the best options are ultra-short cycle varieties like Gumdrop, or short cycle varieties like Lost Hills and Golden Hills (I always mention varieties accessible in the United States).
Gumdrop is the best option for short summers.
Yesterday I spoke with Ross (Phlogopite), about its possibilities, and of course in his region, which is Tucson in Arizona, he can grow all the varieties, but the further north we go, the varieties must be short or ultra-short cycle.
To put ourselves in perspective, my region or the northern part of Andalusia are totally suitable areas for growing pistachios, but in the province of Zamora, which is much further north than my region and has shorter summers, there are also good plantations. of pistachio, and the same for the southern region of France, which is much further north.
By this I mean that it is possible to grow it, but it is necessary to make a good choice of varieties.

Best regards
Jose

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we get between 10-20 days over 100F each year usually. our summer is very hot throughout, over 85F from July through end of September. it is a shorter season, 100-110 days between frost on good years a little over 110

Near the small farm, I am building in South Eastern AZ, they grow many pistachios. I know that I should have no problem growing them. Also, I can irrigate as much as I want. However, I prefer to use as little water as possible and to not have to rely on it.

I would like to use the draught tolerant rootstock.

How much rain do you get per year? I think you stated that your rain is primarily is winter and spring.
While we get some winter rain, most of our rain is summer “monsoon” rain (July- September) We average 15"-18" of rain a year.

Is it important that timing of the rain? Quantity of rain needed for this rootstock without irrigation?

Thanks, I have been enjoying this thread.

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I’m in zone 6b Northeast, what varieties do I have the best chance with?

zone 6b Northeast, it’s more or less Boston or Baltimore.
I don’t know those climates well, but I consider that it is too far north, you will have a lack of hours of heat and problems with humidity.

Best regards
Jose

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