I keep sweetie pie around in case of a nasty bad summer and am trying loch ness… its supposed to be cold hardy…
I wish that we could get the navaho variants that they have in the UK. They have an early one and a late one. Strange that they dont want us to grow them.
As for thorns these are the gloves i use. I have 2 pair but the first pair is 4 years old and is so comfy. They are like a good baseball glove. Never had a thorn go thru them.
with all the blackberries you have, what do you do with all of them?
He is like Forest Gump for shrimp… but for blackberries…
Bkackberry jam, jelly, juice, wine, smoothie, cake, cocktails, icecream,… and blackberry colored frowny faced emoji 
I’m particularly in favor of blackberry juice. It is the best thing I have found to soothe an upset stomach. I used to keep it around for my kids because it is so effective. It also makes fantastic popsicles.
Im into raspberries too… reds/purples/blacks and also hybrids.
They are my future semi-retirement business. I plan on a small nursery. Are there nuts out there like me? Probably not.
But i know there are folks into pawpaws, persimmons, hazelnuts…figs…elderberries, apples, tomatoes, pears, peaches…
Anyways its my passion… Rubus is my thing.
As for the berries- last year i gave away i think 50 gallons… i probably ate and juiced 5 gallons for myself.
When im ready i think i will connect with a lady that is into making jams/jellies/ etc and go into some kind of deal with her… probably not much money but again its my hobby.
I have no desire for U-pick… if someone wants to come pick and sell at their roadside stand i would be cool with that.
I think i saw a video or a post where a guy in the city had like 300 figs in pots and he said he doesnt even eat many figs… lol thats kind of me.
Ive met guys that are obsessed with pawpaws like me as well.
I guess whatever inspires guys like Jerry Lehman to do what they do… its in me too.
So to answer your question…what do i do with them?
I enjoy them.
Christmas to me… is putting a new to me plant in a row…and enjoying its life cycle.
I cant get that feeling anywhere else.
When i was a kid i collected stamps and coins, then comic books, then cards… i collect plants that make me happy now… and thats hard to find in this world nowadays for me.
@krismoriah Wish I would have met you and picked your brain before I bought a bunch of raspberry plants last year. I bought some Crimson Night and Latham raspberry plants and planted them in ground this past spring. I’m sure there are better varieties out there. How would you rate Crimson Night and Latham? If a few don’t make it through next spring, I have the opportunity of replanting some. Any recommendations for a small backyard grower in z6 MA?
More like Bubba…thank you kindly.
What if its a handlebar mustache? 
Im not your guy on that… i dont want to get into recommending anything because what may do good in one yard may not do in another…and growing zones dont help much either… plus i cant vouch for what is in your soil etc etc etc.
With that being said… if i were to just try a few here is what i would (try).
Junebearing Red- Cascade Delight- big and can handle heavy clay soil…probably the most disease resistant variety that can even handle wet boggy soil.
Everbearing Red- Caroline. Is basically Heritage that has been improved.
Joan J- probably the nicest thornless if thats your thing.
Fall Gold- its nice in the fall and have something ready for you… when the rest are done.
As long as you are not female. Women with handlebar mustaches are kind of demoralizing.
im really into cane and bush fruit for ease of care and less spray. blackberries only became a viable option up here in the last 3 years. now im discovering i can grow trailing types not hardy here by covering them then blowing snow on them. has opened up alot of choices i didnt have before. until i got the nelsons, my wife had never eaten a blackberry. now its her favorite fruit. a red light for me to plant more.
who carries cascade delight? i have cascade gold and its very sensitive to clay, wet soils.
This is a kind of old video but talks about not spraying…instead they spray compost tea on them (stephan sobkowiak just did a video on compost tea and his spraying on his fruit trees leaves also). Also trailing since a few of us are getting into it even though we arent on the west coast.
If you want to buy them now…
Buying 3 knocks the price down… buying more knocks it down more.
(they have an etsy store if thats easier for you).
If you want to chance it and wait they can be found cheaper…however they may not be available again? According to this list no vendors are selling them on their approved lists…but that may change next year?
https://raspberryblackberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2021-2022-Caneberry-Nursery-List.pdf
as for the heavy soils and root rot
“Rubus idaeus ‘Cascade Delight’ is a highly productive and vigorous late-summer-fruiting raspberry. It has good resistance to root root, making it ideal for growing in heavy soils. Berries are large and conical with a glossy skin and a firm flesh – ensuring they last well after picking.”
sounds like a winner but being a z6 plant with erect canes means i cant protect it under the snow here and even if i could it probably would still get damage. z5 if covered will make it but z6 probably not.
Here is some more info and im going to leave it alone for now…
One green world says…
Its Z4 -20F hardy.
Perhaps the most root rot resistant of any raspberry, Cascade Delight Raspberry can grow in darn near boggy situations for all you folks with wet heavy soils (though we still recommend giving your plants the best drainage possible). Canes are incredibly productive and produce large, firm conical fruits excellent for fresh eating! Canes are nearly thornless and floricane-fruiting producing one large summer crop.
hmm… and the 2 other websites i looked at said z6. ill trust ogw over everyone else though.
after a little bit more investigating…the paper on Cascade Delight says that the cold hardiness is unknown. And according to this list of cultivars…the box isnt ticked for the plant being cold hardy.
This cultivar was bred for the PNW… which is probably why its uncommon to find. Maybe for good reason?
To make things more complicated it looks as if Cascade Premier is better…and it resists root rot as well. Where cascade delight is a late fruiting raspberry… Premier is early. It is new and probably impossible to find…along with the fact that it was not really made for the East Coast.
New publication from UGA tasting panel results on the newer blackberry varieties from Arkansas as grown in Georgia. 16 folks on the tasting panel.
Their conclusions match my experience with the same varieties grown in NC but my brix levels tested higher than some of their tests, especially on the first picking of Caddo.
I had both Caddo and Ponca to sample this year along with some wild blackberries. Ponca was sweetest. The wild blackberries were far more flavorful.
I’m wondering what makes some blackberries taste better than others.
A combination or high brix and high acid like in Marion or Columbia Giant may describe some characteristics that account for the blackberry taste that people find enjoyable
Table 4.
Soluble solids, pH, and titratable acidity for the new releases ‘Eclipse’ and ‘Galaxy’ and 12 other blackberry cultivars harvested in the same year from plants grown at Oregon State University’s North Willamette Research and Extension Center (Aurora, OR) and harvested in 2011–17.
