Hi guys.
Note that I always speak very highly of pluots, but today is going to be the first exception with two varieties in which I had a lot of interest and they have totally disappointed me.
The varieties are:
Flavorosa
Ebony Rose
As they would say in Spain “they are worse than a plastic knife.”
The caliber of both is good, but the flavor is nothing special.
Simply sweet, without any peculiar flavor, completely flat flavor.
Some photographs of Flavorosa
Ebony Rose, I was so disappointed that I didn’t even take pictures of it.
In contrast to these two pluots from Zaiger, which I did not like, there is a family of varieties of interspecific hybrid of plum x apricot, but it cannot be called pluot, since it is from a breeder other than Zaiger.
I cannot openly say the name of its fruit family or the variety. If some of you want to know what it is, simply send me a private message.
This variety is absolutely different from Ebony Rose or Flavorosa, since it is a very complete variety.
Lots of caliber
Very good exterior and interior color
High firmness of the pulp (crispy texture)
Extremely sweet, with a certain acidity and powerful flavor of red forest fruits (strawberry, raspberry)
Hi Jose can you compare Flavorosa to any other pluot of plum to which they taste kinda the same? The reason i got flavorosa is because it is one of the earliest pluot to ripen just to extend my season.
Hi Phil.
I bought it quite a few years ago in a North American nursery, send me a private message, I’ll tell you where I bought it and you’ll try to see if you’re lucky and they still have it available (I don’t think so), but by trying you won’t lose anything.
I didn’t do a report on the Early Dapple pluot, but I do have a couple of photographs
John, Flavorosa , despite not being a wonder of flavor, it is necessary to have it, since it is a magnificent pollinator for very early flowering varieties of pluots.
For that reason alone it is worth having it in the orchard.
John, you just feel a little disappointed with the pluots, if you expect that all the varieties will have flavors as powerful and good as Flavor Supreme, Flavor King, Flavor Finale, Flavor Treat, or Honey Punch among others, since those flavors are unbeatable, and not all varieties have them.
If you eliminate those thoughts, when you try Flavorosa, it has a very pleasant sweet flavor, and on the other hand, if you have Flavorosa in you orchard, you will get larger harvests of the good very early flowering varieties.
You have to see it from that point of view.
One of the vendors at our local farmers market usually has Flavorosa in May. He grows in Reedly, CA. I agree with Jose, and have not been very impressed. It can have a stringy texture and ok flavor.
The same vendor also has flavorella a week or two after flavorosa and it is one of my early season favorites.
I kind of like Flavorosa,if it’s the variety grafted on one of my trees.Sweet and somewhat spicy and ripens fairly early.The fruit resembles Jose’s photo.
Hi Brady, if it serves as a reference, Flavorella plumcot and Flavorosa pluot both ripen on the same dates.
In my region I harvested Flavorosa on June 12, I know this because my cell phone tells me the dates on which I made the pictures .
In case you have doubts to be sure if your variety is Flavorosa , I’m posting some photographs of this variety, changing the color from green to red-brown:
Damn, the flavor that you describe as sweet and spicy, is the flavor that I like in pluots, and that I do not find in this variety, I only appreciate a sweet flavor with few nuances (this may be because I have tried many varieties of pluots whit very good taste , and my expectations of flavor when trying a variety are very high), logically all the varieties do not have the incredible flavor of Flavor Supreme, whose complex flavor includes sweetness, acidity (that spicy touch), flavor of spices and caramel, it is an orgasmic flavor.
And when a variety doesn’t achieve that complex flavor, it disappoints me a little.
But as I said before, it is a variety that is worth keeping in the orchard.
No Phil, it’s not relative, it’s absolute.
Trust me, I know what I’m talking about.
Your climate allows you to grow pluots, and if you have never tried them, much better, since you have to request grafting cuttings or buy these varieties:
Flavor Suprene
Flavor King
Flavor finale
Flavor Treat (you will not find this in nurseries and you have to request grafting cuttings)
Geo Pride
Flavor Grenade
These are the varieties with which you should start your collection.
When you try a fully tree-ripened Flavor Supreme or Flavor King pluot for the first time, your eyes will roll and you will reach Nirvana.
It’s like an orgasm of flavor.
Jose is a bit optimistic sometimes. I think he’s not that familiar with the heat, rain, and humidity in places like southern Louisiana. To grow them there will be very difficult. Just keeping the tree alive will be difficult. Keeping the fruit from rotting will be nearly as hard. I’d suggest going with one tree of multiple varieties under a rain shelter.
Unless I can find scion, I need to buy the tree first anyway. I’m getting some Lovell rootstock to build a tree from.
I’ll probably play with it over the next few years.
Let’s just see if I can get my Flavor Grenade to fruit first. I’m ambitious but not greedy.
What I like about Pluots judging from the Harvest chart at DWN, breeders have obviously targeted harvest windows across the whole of summer and fall…very little overlap.
No greenhouse here, however I am growing a few trees in 36" dia fire rings open to the ground. See photo water pooling during a rain. That standing water drains in a few hours.
I’m not sure how much it crowds the roots after a few years, but it is a way to control soil moisture for the first 14 inches or so until it hits ground level.
A self regulated size wise tree isn’t a bad idea.
As you were probably alluding to, a multi graft tree is much easier to spray / treat than a lot of individual ones.
. I hope i do try it next year i hope it taste at least like beauty plum.
