Grow more food! Think there will be more shortages

I’ve taken a lot of supplements the past decade or so. I do so because generally my diet is crap so its just easier.

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Other than too much refined flour and meal, I’m not sure my diet is that bad, but I typically take a multivitamin tablet daily. And occasionally other supplements. Such as extra vitamin C if I think I might have some inflamation. But, fruits and veggies, even if cooked are a pretty good diet. Diet soft drinks are worse than regular but neither is good for you…except in some cases for the caffeine or to comfort a sick stomach in some people.

The thing about supplements…if the drug companies can’t patent and make a fortune, they’re not interested in natural herbal medicines. Same goes for most doctors.

So, I’m glad the herbals are for sale … but it’s true a lot of money gets spent at the ‘health food store’ for things that may or may not be all that potent and/or suitable for what ails a person. Buyer be careful, but appreciate that you can buy supplements rather than forage for them…so many people don’t have land, and might end up in jail if foraging in National Forests.

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only soft drink i drink regularly is diet canada dry ginger ale. its the coloring it the soda thats bad for your kidneys. aspartame isnt good either but the one i drink has splenda in it and from what ive read is less of a issue. i figure the ginger in it helps mitigate its effects also. ive made fermented ginger ale from fresh ginger and gave a bottle to friends of the family that had covid 2 years ago. the mother swore it helped them all get better quicker.

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@steveb4

Grated fresh ginger can be put in water for ginger ale. Make with lemon and the sweetner of your choice. Carbonate with yeast or dry ice.

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i juice the ginger in my juicer then add sugar/ minced ginger a little everyday and it ferments naturally on its own. takes a little longer than adding yeast but tastes much better. once its got to where i like it i strain it to a ginger ale bottle and use the chunks to start another batch. i dont make it all the time but like to have it from fall to spring to help fight off colds/ flu. going to try making the same with aronia and b. currants.

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As the leaders in the world go more crazy, it’s all the more critical to grow enough to get you and your family by in a tough situation. Agree.

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@BlueBerry

Im not sure when we got so trusting and got away from looking out for ourselves in the first place.

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As far as I know, at least in Pennsylvania, you can actually forage for a lot of things on STATE forest. No picking roots but you can harvest edible mushrooms, nuts, berries (pawpaw is a berry :wink:), and other fruits if available. You can even get a very reasonable permit to harvest firewood from FALLEN trees and pay for a permit to collect rocks.

Ginseng is a weird one where it’s illegal to harvest on state land (to my knowledge) but a permit is required to legally harvest it on private property.

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Permit to harvest on private property??? What a shame.

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The permit is not expensive. It’s mainly to account for the industry within the state, similarly to how hunters need a permit to harvest deer, bear, etc. I wouldn’t say it is a shame for folks to have a hunting license… It helps to pay for conservation efforts. Just a different perspective.

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The shame to me is the state expecting people to pay to harvest something from their own property. Typically they are already paying income tax and property tax and then the state wants to tax them again. Give them an inch and they’ll take a mile. Where will it end? Next they will want to tax you for the food that you grow on your property. No, I don’t think we should be paying to harvest things from our own property. Just a different perspective, indeed. :wink:

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I don’t disagree with your perspective from my own deeply held convictions (income tax used to be illegal :grin::wink:) However I can understand why it is done.

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I don’t like paying for a bear hunting permit so that they can bring more bears into my area and turn them loose to destroy my apples (and my beehives if I should start keeping them again).!!!

It’s a shame to have to buy a license to shoot critters the state brings in that destroy private property!

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I see bears and deer more as food but it’s hard to hunt with a neighbor sleeping probably 30 feet away. I share your frustration with competing with them for the same food.

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@BlueBerry

In Kansas they will give you a free nuisance permit if they do something bad to your orchard. There is a catch on that free permit and that is then the permit holder cannot eat the bear. We dont hsve bears thankfully.

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Imagine a system so set on making sure that they get their cut that they would tell people “you can kill it, just don’t eat it”. That’s just wasteful. I should probably mention that I don’t actually eat meat. :grinning: …but I still stand by my assessment!

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Not sure if Wisconsin still does it but they use to have crop damage tags. I can remember in high school some friend’s grandpa had a farm and they would shoot a lot of deer with those tags. Bonus tags use to be very easy and cheap to come by (i want to say they were always for does)…they were like a buck or 2.

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Deer are so brave and plentiful, you can almost lay on the porch if you’re downwind and pluck 'em off. Most of my neighbors don’t bother being legal and buying tags. Slaughter in the garage…once the temps cool enough.

Crop shortages certainly are increased by the percentage that four legged and feathered critters steal from the gardener and farmer.

(Too bad more of 'em don’t like soybeans! And leave the corn and fruit alone!)

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in Maine you can get a permit to shoot a animal thats causing destruction on your property. its free you just need to show said damage to the warden. they are bringing the tag limit to 2 bear per person for the 1st time. way too many causing all sorts of problems. my brother in CT said the population of them is up too and now parents are afraid to let their kids out because they are everywhere and no one can hunt them.

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i friend of ours son, lives just outside of Philly and gets his buck every year from his bedroom window with a crossbow. cant hunt in his area because its so built up. hes got a small piece of land in which he has a apple tree and grows some corn. has a light that’s motion triggerd and whacks em’ at night. yes its poaching but like he says, no one’s controlling them there so its not like hes hurting the population any. with meat prices going through the roof i bet many more will be doing this if they arent already.

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