I’ve only grown 4 varieties, two of which I think are excellent in all respects: Szukis, Mohler. I can’t imagine a better variety. I didn’t like Meader because it retained some astringency, and Morris Burton was just sweet, without any richness of flavor.
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I responded too quickly. Many years ago I grew Juhl (same as Jewel?) and some other variety whose name escapes me. One of them was very similar to Szukis. I’m in the colder portion of zone 5 and none of the varieties I’ve grown have ever been damaged in winter, with lows to minus 20 degrees F.
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Acquiring grafted persimmons can be a daunting task… with some sellers wanting $100 per tree and some vendors never having anything in stock it seems. Let alone the drive to some of these sellers that do not ship.
H-118 is sold by OGW and is fairly easy to obtain… but what about the others?
Papa Pawpaw’s sells these grafted trees below at $25 each…
Paradise H-63A
Valeene Beauty I-94
Early Jewel H-118
Elmo A-118
Dollywood D-128
Barbara’s Blush WS8-10
Celebrity U-20A
Claypool H-120
Claypool H-55A
Claypool I-115
Claypool J-59
Claypool A-33
Claypool C-100
Claypool F-26
Lehman’s 100-42
Lehman’s 100-43
Lehman’s 100-45
Lehman’s Delight 100-46
Early Golden
Prok
Yates / Juhl
Mohler
Geneva Long
Jenny’s Early
Osage
Knightsville
Lena
Meyer Seedless
Valeene Queen
Meader
Morris Burton
WS-19-1N
SAA Pieper
Mikkusu JT-02
Journey
It would be great if someone could somehow buy these and then resell to us and ship. $25 is a very fair deal and meat left on the bone to make some profit.
Any members from near Rock Island IL?
There are half a dozen or so in there that i would love to try but i dont see me ever being in the neighborhood of this guy.
Im a buyer.
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That’s only $19. You don’t have enough money. Couldn’t find one with 100’s?
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Maybe it was supposed to be Early Juhl not Early Jewel?
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For those experienced grafting persimmons, how long is the longest you’ve seen a graft “sit” and end up making it? I had dug root suckers this spring and grafted over. In hindsight I should’ve grafted some of the trees that hadn’t been dug and let the dug trees establish roots for a year. Even though that may have put my grafted trees may have been in a bad location, I could’ve harvested scion later.
Long story short, the grafts sat for a long time without breaking bud. I don’t remember a graft date, but most things got grafted in late April, so close to then. I kept faithfully removing rootstock shoots. About 2 months in 1 saijo graft broke and has been growing well. Today I noticed a couple other saijo breaking bud. My H118 graft is still tight as a tick though. It looks alive, but no sign of breaking. 1, is there any way to force it beyond continuing to remove rootstock shoots?
2, how long would y’all let it go before giving up and letting the rootstock grow? I’ve got plenty of suckers I can dig, so it isn’t like the rootstock is super precious for me.
I know this is off topic a bit, but it is a question about h118.
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Let a big rootstock bud go on H118 because it will give some energy back into the rootstock. Many people call that a feeder branch or nurse branch.
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Pappa Pawpaw’s was $30 this year. I am about an hour plus from him. Please note these are small about a foot +. I bought a Dollywood and IL everbearing. They are grafted.
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You guys think this persimmon H-118 would do well in East Texas 8b? Summers are hot and humid here. I might consider it
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I did two water-reservoir-modified approach grafts (I put the name together myself, but it makes sense), they were long green, freshly-cut scions with water bottles taped to the trees and ceran wrapped to the scions so that I wouldn’t have to refill the water bottles and risk breaking the callous.
I did approach grafts on the trunk and on a branch and after about a month one was working and the other had no growth, so I pruned off that whole branch, when taking the water bottle off of my scion, I saw it had fully calloused over and the buds were just starting to swell, it probably wasn’t the longest I waited for a graft, but I think it was a whole month from the end of July to August.
From a video I did, I don’t have a picture unfortunately
The growing graft, after cutting off the lower end of the scion going into the water bottle.
The callous in a close up.
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Pawpaw’s trees are in 2 1/2 by 10 inch pots. About 1/8 diameter and 16 to 18 inch tall. Just so you know. I will buy again.
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I’m considering a significant grafting operation next spring to get several dozen going in tall pots like that. I checked with my state and as long as I use bagged media, I don’t need a nursery license. I’ve got two years experience grafting pears onto wild calery rootstock, and I’d say I get 80% success rate. I figure I’ll spend a couple hundred bucks on the front end and be able to recoup the money over the next few years as they grow. Not really looking to ship yet, but maybe would bare root if they don’t sell locally.
If anyone is in NW AR and is interested in joining forces, let me know!
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