Hard to find apple or pear? Check Kansas

Many of us have that one apple or pear variety that we’ve been searching for relentlessly. You may find it as a benchgraft in Kansas . The downside is they do have a 10 tree minimum order required Wagon Wheel Orchard: 2015 Spring Benchgrafting

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Great list!

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I sent RIck a couple hundred varieties a few years ago when he was getting going. His passion for varieties makes him the new Botner!

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That really is an impressive list.

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Scott,
Your collection is extensive. What is your other website address again? Its been a year since I’ve been on there.

Clark, click on my face and the link will pop up.

I have been removing varieties at a rapid pace, for example a week ago I removed over a dozen. When I sent things to Rick it had many more apples than are on the list, and it has things on it I have removed recently.

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Thanks Scott you have a lot of stuff on there. I was checking out what pears and apples your currently growing.

Nice List Scott. I am interested in your russets and Limbertwigs.

Just in pear trees they have almost 500 varieties by what I gather based on their list.
Abbe Fetal
Alexander Lucas
Allexandrine Douillard
Alliance
Amire Joannet
Anderson
Andre Deportes
Aniversarea
Anjou
Anjou Dwarf
Arabitka
Aramornaya
Arganche
Arlrang
Aromata D Bistrita
Aromatay Ya Russian Quince
Aromatnaya Quince
Atawa 291
Atlantic Queen
Aurora
Ayers
Ayers
B. Dield
Bakonne Leroy
Baldwin
Barland
Barnet
Bartlett
Bartlett
Bartlett Lowry Red
Bartlett Nye Russet
Bartlett Red Sensation
Bartlett, Max Red
Bartlette Sensation Red
Batjarka
Bcurre Sluelm (Slutik Minsk)
Belle Angevlne
Belle D Guigno
Belle De Beugny
Belle Lucrative
Belle Poitevien
Belmont ~
Berga motte
Besl De La Mutte
Best Ever
Beurre Alexandre
Beurre Clairgeau
Beurre D’A1nanlis
Beurre D’Anleterre
Beurre Diel
Beurre Dilly
Beurre Easter
Beurre Gifford
Beurre Giifard
Beurre Griss
Beurre Hardy
Beurre Hary Royal Red
Beurre John
Beurre Lucon
Beurre Madam Henre
Beurre Madam Henre Lamy
Beurre Picard
Beurre Super?n
Bierschmidt
Big Stout Brown
Blakeney Red
Blakes
Bloorlgood
Bon Chre?cd (Good Christian)
Bon Cretien D’I-liver
Bortlinger
Bosc*
Bose
Bowman
Brandy Pear
Buckley
Burford
Burford*
Butiro
Butirra Di Roma
Butirra Precoce Morettini
Butirra Rosata Morettlni
Butt Perry
C. Oblonga Uzbekiaton Early Q Forelle
California
Capital
Carrick
Cascade
Catillac
Champion
Changpa Li
Chapin
Charles Harris
Charles Wurttemberg
Cherry
Chestnut
Chien Li
Chien Pa Li
Chojuro
Citron De Cannes
Clapps Favorite
Clapps Favorite Red
Clara Frius (Comtesae)
Coadesele
Colette
Columbia
Columbia Red
Comice
Concorde
Conference
Conseiller A La Cover
Cooks Jumbo Quince
Cornice
Coscia
Coteia
Count A.W. Moltke
Cylde Neff
D Ester
Dabney
Dana Hovey
Dark Horse
Daves Delight
Delices D’Avrll
Dermen
Devoe
Directeur Hardy
Doctor Desport
Domestic
Douglas
Doyanne De Violet
Doycne
Doyenne Boussoelt
Doyenne De Juliet
Doyenne Du
Doyenne Gris
Dr. Dlsportes
Dr. Jules Guyot
Duchess
Duchess Bronzee
Duchess D Angoulema
Duchess De Bordeaux
Duchess De Prissae
Dumont
Dwarf Anjou
Dwarf Orange Quince
Earlibrite
Early Harvest
Early Seckel
Ekmek Q
Ekmer Quince
Eldorado
Eletta Morettini
Elette Morettina
Emile D’Hcyst
Endieott Pear
Enie
Epargne
Erabasma
Eureka
Ewart
F. McFarland Homestead #1
F. McFarland Homestead #2
F. McFarland Homestead #4
Farmingdale
Fertility Pear
Figue D’Aleneon
Flemish Beauty
Flor Diran
Florida
Florida Home
Fondante De Charnay
Fondante De Moulle
Four Corners Homestead*
Fracgrante
Frangipane
Frederick Clapp
Garber
Gaspard
Gebhard Red Anjou
Gelbmostler
General Le Clerc
Getchel
Gi?ord
Gin
Glow Morceaux
Go:-ham
Golden Bose
Golden Spice
Gourmet
Graaparon
Grand Champion
Green Bartlette
Green D ‘Anion
Green Jade
Greta
Grieve Moltke
Grumkower Butter Birne
H.E.S. 25021
H6831/1.12
H6831/1-12
Hamesi
Hansen
Harban ,
Hardy (French Butter)
Harron Quince
Harrow Delight
Harrows Delight*
Harvest Queen
Haugai Li
Haunted House Pear
Hebe
Helmershus
Helmershus Roda
Hendre Huffcap
Henri Deportes
Hessle
Highland
Honey Sweet
Hood
Hoskins
Hosui
Hourdequin
Howell Sport
Huagl Ll
Hudar
Huhoot Li
'I‘hornley
Ichiban Nashi
Idaho
Imamura Akl
Itala Pirovano
Japanese Golden Russet
Jeanne d’Arc*
Jodcn Jach
Joeys Red?esh
Jolmtorp
Josephine De Malines
Jubilee.
Jules D’Airol|es
Jules Jumbo
Jumbo Stark
June Sugar
Jungs Hardy
Jypineis Sarklsky
Kair Aarnnmd
Kalebasa Plocka
Kalle
Kansu
Kasper;
Kiefer
Kiefer
Kiets Luelq _
Kiklsui
Kimicukawase
King Sobiesld
Knox
Korean Giant
Korean Giant
Korian Lambert
Kosui
Krupn Burnusos ’
Kryiov
Kyles Sugar
Lacock #6
Lajire
Lamy
Lange Graticol
Latvian
Lawerence
Lawsons June Sugar
Laxlnova
Laxtons Record
Le Bnm
Le Nain Vert
Leborgeot Q
Leconte
Lelcman
Lemon Quince
Leon Jessen
Leona
Leopardo Morettinl
Lida
Limonka
Lincoln
l-lomony
Longworth
Louis Pasteur
Louise Bon D Avanches
Louise Bonne De Jersey
Louise -K
lshiwase
Lucele
Luinova
Luscious
Lutsys Voipirin
Madam Boutant
Madame Andre LeRoy
Madeleine
Madison Gardner Pear #1
Madison Gardner Pear #2
Magness
Magness*
Mandel
Maralee
Marguerite Marlat
Marie Louise
Marks
Maxine
Mednik
Megetsu
Meliina
Merricourt
Miehurlns Winter Beurne
Mignonette Q
Mills Pear ’
Misharasu
Mitchell
Mlney
Monstreuse D’Evr-eino?
Mooers
Moongiow
Moonglow
Morettini 113
Mramornaya
Muscat
Mustaby
N.Y.10274
Nanguo Li
New August Pear
Nijiseiki
Nitaka
Norhausen Forelle
Normannichen Ciderbime
Nottingham Medler
Nouveau Poiteau
Nova
NY 10355
Obiean Vodenac
Okusankiehi
Olathe Lake Pear
Old Home
Olia
Olympic Asian*
Onandaga
Onward
Orcas
Orient
Paasans Du Portugal
Packham Late
Paekhams Triumph
Parrot
Passans Du
Passe Crassane
Patomic C
Patomie ’
Patton
Pendula
Penouka
Pepik
Pineapple
Ping Ding Li -
Pitmaston Duchess
Pontotee
Pope
Porporata
Portugeie Pearshape
Pound Pear
Precoee Detrevoux
Pres. Osmonville 40
President
President Hardy
President Heron
Princess
Pucivlot Mcdlar
Purporata
Red Pear
Redspire
Relmer Red
Rescue
Rescue*
Rocha
Rogue Red
Roosevelt
Rose De Juillet
Rosii Untoase
Rotkottig Fray Ostergotland
Rougne Red
Rousselet De Reims
Rousselet Of Stuttgartt
Royal Medlar
Russet Bose
Rutlidge Moonglow
Sanguinelle
Sanquinole Red Flesh
Santa Clause
Santa Maria
Sauvilmac
Scckel
Schweiaer Waaserbirne
Scipiona
Seckel
Seigoko
Seipiona -
Seker Gevrek Q (EAT)
Sena tor Clark
Sensation
Seuri Li
Shannon
Sheldon
Shinko
Shinseiki
Shinsui
Shipova
Shlnseiho
Shu Ll
Siberian
Sierra
Sion Sunni
Slrrine
Smcderevka
Smyrna Quince ‘
Snyder
Sorbo Pyrus
Southern Queen
Spaldlng
Spartlett
St Andre
St. Nicholas
Stacey
Starking Del. (Maxine)
Starking Hardy Giant
Stewart
Stout g
Sucre Dc Mon?ucon
Sucree Rosee
Sugar Top
Suiu
Sultan Medlar
Summer Blood Birne
Summer Crisp ’ ‘
Sure Crop
Suzurni
Sweet Turksih Quince
Takisba
Tarquin Des
Tarusa
Tarusa Crimson
Tayton Squash
Tekkes Quince
Tencara Pink Q
Tennessee
Thielers Birnc
Thompsons ~
Thorn
Toms Pear
Tongue
Trenholm Quince
Tresure
Triomphe De
Triomphe De Vienna
Tsu Li
Tumbuli Giant
Twentieth Century
Tyson
Tzu Ma Li
Ubileen
Ure
Vasarine Sviestile
Verbelu Red Flesh
Vermont Beauty
Vicar Oi‘ Winkiield
Warden Seckel
Warden Seckel
Warren
Waterville
White Doyenne
White Star
Wiildeman (El)
Winnals Longdon
Winsor
Winter Cole
Winter Nelis -
Worden Seckel
Worren
Ya Li
Yakogoshi
Yakumo
Yellow Huiicap
Yongi
Zao Su
Zaosu
Zelinka
Zimska

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These varities are becoming more and more difficult to find. I recently was given contact information for another gentleman growing one of a kind pear varities. I’m doing my best to stick to fire blight resistant pears and that is not easy. All I can think about is Abate fetel aka abbé fetal, forrelle, Concorde, comice, bosc and many others.

Just realized how rare ST. Nicholas is as I’m getting ready to bench graft some. It was not pulling any google results.

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@39thparallel
Mike,
Saint Nicholas is very rare as you said! Its a pear that came to most of us by way of the Nick Botner collection. The description is even more obscure but here is what we know " SAINT NICHOLAS Found as St. Nicholas in the collection of Nick Botner in Oregon, he kindly sent scions in 2010. This pear has variously been known as Duchesse D’Orléans, Beurré St. Nicholas and other names, and there is some confusion as to whether they are all the same. Saint Nicholas was first noted in Britain in 1826, in the LHS collection at Chiswick. All these pears are now missing. Scott says Beurré St. Nicolas was a wilding discovered at St. Nicolas, Angers, France, first fruiting in 1839. Hogg gives no origin, calling it Duchesse D’Orléans, while giving the other names as synonyms. Scott’s and Hogg’s descriptions vary in the season of ripening Scott says ‘one of the best of early pears’, ripening in September, while Hogg says it ripens in October. They agree that it is a large, dessert pear, with sweet, juicy, melting flesh. Ours, as with Scott, ripens in September and is very melting and fine fleshed, juicy and sweet with a caramel flavour. We welcome its return to Britain.**" according to Pear Trees 6 - Historic Varieties Grown and Supplied by Bernwode Fruit Trees .

I have a very small Saint Nicholas i got from you several years ago. Its growing in clay soil on callery rootstock in much less than an ideal place and doing fine. Thought i would offer some kind of description since like the pear it may dissapear by the next time someone searches for it.

Here is yet another description

" Description- This section is from “The Horticulturist, And Journal Of Rural Art And Rural Taste”, by P. Barry, A. J. Downing, J. Jay Smith, Peter B. Mead, F. W. Woodward, Henry T. Williams. Also available from Amazon: Horticulturist and Journal of Rural Art and Rural Taste.

The Duchesse D’Orleans Pear. Beurre St. Nicholas

The Duchesse d’Orleans is ranked unanimously, as far as we are informed by those who have tested it in this country, as one of the best new varieties from abroad. It was first introducd by Mr. Kenrick, and noticed in the seventh edition of his American Orchardist. It was first fruited by Robert Manning, of Salem, and within two or three years past in several parts of the country. It is figured and described in the first volume of Hovey’s Fruits of America. Withal, we have not been able to trace its origin, and we are inclined to think it is from Germany. It has fruited in our collection three years. The first year we formed a poor opinion of it, but we found afterwards that we injured it by leaving it too long on the tree. Our colored plate was made from a specimen grown by H. P. Norton, Esq., of Brockport, N. Y., who has had it in bearing for two or three years, and we believe thinks highly of it."

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Anyone have scionwood for Saint Nicholas?

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@DeepBlueDustin

The only one besides me I know for sure who grows it is my friend Mike at https://39thparallel.com/ . Someone who has an extensive pear collection is @scottfsmith which may make my own collection look dwarfed though I’m sure our varities are different. My tree is small less than 6 feet. Mike is sold out of scions I think as well for now in 2021. The usda may have it but I’m not sure of that. Some of these pears are ultra rare. Typically @39thparallel comes here and gathers scion wood. As I said my tree is to small I think this year. In the last couple of years I don’t seem to get scion wood gathering done due to time constraints and health issues. Hopefully that changes in the future. This topic when I created it was all about the diversity Wagon Wheel Orchard and other Kansas growers have. I think your best bet is wait until Mike at 39thparallel gathers scion wood in a couple of months. In the event the tree has some to spare and I feel up to it I will send you some out free of charge I always pay it forward. Many of these guys make their living selling scions and trees but I’m not in that category. I’m disappointed in myself not having been able to give away scions recently.

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I’m not in it for the cash, PERIOD. I’m solely here to steward rare fruit trees. The profit my farm makes goes directly back into the ground. My day job pays for my expensive stewarding activities. :smiley: But I’ll definitely keep Mike in mind and I always appreciate any help from other members. Appreciate the pay it forward sentiment! :metal:

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@deepbluedustin
Yes many people help each other in this community as much as we can. Some years I have paid $200 in postage sending scions out free of charge. If I feel more like it I want to do it again

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