@Dean think you could have a bunch of native hollies for cover (dioecious so could just grow male if do not want seed)
Holly was brought up (on hedge) (I re read some)
(also I made tea of some sort of holly type)
I had a Stunning photo of a American Holly ilex opaca (zone 5b)
I cannot find (It grew more like a tree very tall)
If you would want on that grows very high (ilex opaca does )
Bush form might be better to keep deer out (but this ones wide)
Maybe you could espalier some tree’s
(or just grow a lot of (short ) hollies for a deer blockage )
Miss Helen American Holly will grow to be about 40 feet tall at maturity, with a spread of 20 feet.
The pods have a very sweet and fragrant pulp inside, but you may look into Kentucky Coffee tree or black locust as alternatives if the thorns are a concern. Black locust thorns are more like roses. Honey locust thorns are terrifying.
the thorns are ok if the fruit is tasty. We can buy here some thornless varieties in Germany but many of them are male trees I need at least both for fruiting.
I looking for the edible pulp and
looked into Kentucky Coffeetree, but some sources say it is poisonous.
And Black locust has no edible pulp and is considered to be very poisonous.
Black locust is very common here because of the high quality wood.
155 locust trees is a lot. Maybe you can pick one out with extra much pulp
It seems there was not much effort made to breed them for the sweet pulp.
I looked into the Kentucky Coffeetree again. It seems they have much more pulp in the pods than Honey Locust.
I fond some confusing data about the poisonous.
Some sources claim the pulp is edible but a mild laxative. Some others say it is poisonous.
I’ve not eaten the pulp out of KCT pods. I’m of the understanding that it can be used as a ‘soap substitute’ for handwashing, etc. Really works up a nice froth.
Seems like Mike Dirr admitted (tongue-in-cheek?) that perhaps some of his personality quirks were a result of having eaten that goo as a kid. The KCT seeds, however, do contain toxic alkaloids - unlike those of honeylocust, which could, conceivably be ground into a useful flour - but it has been suggested that roasting inactivates the alkaloids in KCT seeds… but early settlers who bought into land speculators’ claims that KCTseeds made an acceptable replacement for coffee… abandoned roasted KCT seeds for ‘real’ coffee as soon as it became available on the frontier.