people used to think they had to have frost to ripen. Now they know that it is just a matter of getting enough heat units, because they did the experiment. As our heat units continue to rise every year, there are some varieties of persimmon like Rosseyanka that we might be able to ripen here in the PNW. Even when we have hot days, we have cool nights. Better for sleeping but fewer heat units compared to back East. Traditionally we could only grow the early ones.
John S
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Looks great! And so early too. Is that the earliest persimmon you grow?
yes so far this is my earliest variety.
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I would think that Dollywoods would be HUGE based on the original. 
Early persimmons are a great idea for insurance on a cool year and also to spread out the harvest.
Can’t wait to taste them.
John S
PDX OR
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I had a chance to enjoy a JT-02 (Mikkusu kaki hybrid) persimmon today. I didn’t grow it. Cliff England was kind enough to send me a few with my fall order. But boy was it excellent! Rich and syrupy. The pictures below show JT-02 next to a normal size Hachiya persimmon. You can see that JT-02 is a mottled blue/black in the picture. Cliff says that’s not normal, that they’re normally completely orange but that he had a strange year for fruit (like many of us did). He also said the coloring doesn’t affect flavor
Pretty good size. The skin on JT-02 is a lot tougher and more leather-like than Hachiya.
As for flavor, these were excellent. Rich and dense with a butterscotch/honey/apricot/persimmon flavor. By comparison, they made Hachiya taste like honey-water while JT-02 was more of a syrup. The best part was I found a few seeds to grow out. Exciting night for me!
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It sounded delicious. So, it is not cold hardy for us?
Wish you success growing out those seeds.
Hybrid Persimmons sound interesting!
The site here has a few 3rd generation Hybrids:
I would like to know more about these … the descriptions are very minimalistic on this website.
Does anyone have experience with them? (Besides Nikitas Gift and Rosseyanka)
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Cliff is a wealth of information and a good man. I was on the phone with him today!
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Most of them are newer Ukrainian selections and it’s possible some are the seller’s creation since he is also active breeder - not just persimmons but also paw paws from what I heard. That place is only about 10min driving from my place.
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Wow nice to know that you are near him
Just took me 2h to drive to him.
Maybe ill get 2 of his Hybrids … but i cant plant more now atm ^^
I tried to get some of the early pawpaws (Halvin, Summer Delight, Kentucky Champion) from him … but he did not have them in stock.
Instead, i got the American Persimmons H118 and H120.
I hope i can get some of the pawpaw varieties that i mentioned in the future.
They are pretty rare in europe.
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His stock goes out pretty fast. It’s good to call around May and reserve them. I think he gets more plants after July but those sell out quick as well.
You can also check here but ask about availability before you go all the way up there 
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Thank you for the link!
Wow, what nice collection of Persimmons and Jujubes!
Would like to get one of these Asian Persiommons:
Hyakume, Zenjimaru, Nishimura wase / Izu
And also the Hybrid NB-21, this one seems to be good!
This place is really close to my sisters home, just 30 min away.
I can combine that with a visit.
Nice!
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Ill see if i can buy the new “Superosijanka” Mutation from Pavel this year!
Would like to know how it compares to the regular Rosijanka!
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Steven,
I hope they all sprout. I bury five Nikita’s Gift seeds last week. Will see if they sprout for me.
Tony
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Thanks Tony. I’ve had good germination rates with NG and Risseyanka seeds in the past. I’ve got 10 JT02 seeds total. I’m starting six inside and will do four directly in the ground.
Good luck with yours too.
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Thinking of grafting some hybrids to my mature lotus persimmons. How is everyone doing with the hybrids?
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Rossyanka and JT-02 are the most cold hardy for me in Zone 5.
Tony
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