Yes, they suck the sap (they don’t chew) and transmit disease. They are major pests to many crops.
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Thanks Ahmad!
Yes, I read up on them further today. I believe they are whiteflies. I’ve been spraying with whatever I have that I believe works. For example, the Cutter and Ortho Bug B Gone that I have that also control mosquitos. Those you connect the water hose. I also have a 2 gallon sprayer that I use for malathion. All seem to work but will require several applications. Neem oil should work too from what I read- I have a bottle of it that I haven’t opened yet.
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I got lucky today when I nabbed 2 JT-02s from Perfect Circle Farm. They sold out fast. Very excited for this acquisition!
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I’m glad you were able to get some!
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I thought I’d been growing D. texana for the last couple years, but @Pokeweed kindly pointed out that the leaves on my persimmon seedling look nothing like texana. The same seller also offers seeds of various other persimmon species (lotus, kaki, virginiana), so I’m guessing it was a labeling mixup on the seeds. Anyone have a guess what species this is?
It survived 16°F in its 1 gal pot without any trouble last winter, so I’m guessing probably not kaki?
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That looks like Common American persimmon
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A guess is all I have.
It does look like American ( D. Virginiana ) as Dax has said.
However , the leafs look a little longer / or narrower,
And seem to have a little more pointed tip than what I am used to seeing here. I looked up date plum ( D . Lotus ) on Wikipedia
It says , and shows photos of of a leaf with a more pointed tip,
For lotus .
Also found this page with photos , showing lotus with a narrower leaf , also more pointed tip.
So … ?
I have never seen a D. lotus, that I know of.
You asked for guesses, mine would be , definitely, maybe ?
D. Lotus ?
Don’t have a clue really.!
Photos of Leafs of D. Texana on line are rounded on the end, not pointed
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I am happy to announce another hybrid persimmon this year.
Here are the H-118 American persimmon crossed with the super hardy to -31F Jerry’s Lehman Nikita’s Gift male offspring. I think this offspring fruit will be great because of the two parentage. I will grow out about ten trees and will see how tasty the fruits will be.
Tony
Here is the father Jerry’s Lehman Nikita’s Gift male offspring
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Now you have to name it!!!
I found some normal looking seeds in 1 Prok fruit. All the other dozen or so fruit I’ve eaten have had malformed seeds. I wonder if there’s a chance these will grow into hybrid trees, since the only males I’m aware of nearby are kaki.
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That is great new because Prok had to crossed with some male to have seeds. Just put them in the ziplock bag in the refrigerator to stratified then plant them out in May. I hope you have some good ones. I got 6 offsprings of Prok crossed with Jerry’s Lehman Nikita’s Gift male offspring.
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See them little speckles all over the fruit at Tony’s pic? That’s the H-118. ( I think : ) 
( Tony!
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Good luck. My NG is in the 3rd leaf, and still has not fruited in container. I am wondering if it will only produce in ground.
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3rd leaf is still young. Your tree start flowering next year. Whether or not it will hold on to fruit is another story,
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This guy who has been kind enough to show me a few of his seed collecting places said to me:
‘when growing hardwoods, if they flower male the first time and second time (second year) - there’s always a chance they’ll flip to female the third…’
He said, ‘I wish somebody would’ve told me that, a long time ago…’ he has his PHD in Biology and Plants. That’s something they never taught him. We were discussing persimmons…
he said, don’t rule them out as male plants until after year three. he said with a laugh, ‘persimmons are supposed to be 75% male(s)… from seed.’ He proceeded saying, ‘I very much doubt that’.
He’s got a little pick-up truck and runs his own little nursery of some sort. He collects seeds and grows plants and ships them from Facebook sales. He’s one of many people turning a wee bit older and has never changed what he did during his life. This is all he’s ever done. He wanted me know to pass along that information.
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This is new to me but I will keep it in the back of my mind. So just say if I used the male flower to cross other persimmons and get some new varieties. Then in the 3rd year it reverted to a female then I may lose a potential good male variety. That could be a bummer.
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I asked him about that and he said the persimmons that are true females will be full female flowering while the males that revert to female carry some male flowers still - most of the time.
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@Mikatani how is Pamjat Pasenkova flavor? Does it make the nod from you in comparison to Nikitskaya Bordovaya? It’s 2-weeks earlier than NG. (Nikitskaya Bordovaya = Nikita’s Gift)
(Thank you for posting this below photo Dithmur)
Will it be recommended for The Pacific Northwest USA where Nikitskaya Bordovaya harvests very well and H-118 seems to be the best American that can mature its fruit, Pamjat Pasenkova…?
I appreciate sincerely your opinion.
Dax
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To be honest…I can’t see much difference between the two. Fruit looks identical and so does the tree and leaves.Here they ripen at the same time. I have another hybrid (also Rosseyanka offspring) which also looks identical. About early ripening American: So far, the earliest ripening persimmon is Geneva Red. It has ripened and dropped all of its fruit already while the other early ones like Early Jewel, Pieper, etc. have just started. Nobody ever seems to mention this “old” variety but as it turns out it is still the earliest of all and has a really good flavor.
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