Hybrids with Euro plums out there?

[murky]

@PlummerJosh

That has been widely speculated, but the experts say that it is probably not a cross with a greengage since, genetically, it would be a miracle for the 2 to cross. Likely it was a Japanese green plum that Howard thought was a greengage. But from what I hear, it is a delicious plum.

Howard Miracle is nothing like a gage, or any other European plum. It is delicious, and enormous, looks and tastes somewhat like a nectarine.

[jessica4b]

https://www.glexpo.com/summaries/2012summaries/peach_plum.pdf So there seems to be a hardy plum with a “grandfather” euro plum here: RF 11-06-51-1, page 9 and 10. I don’t think it has been released yet…