Jujubes- Our New Adventure

Dried up? It’s hard to tell from the pic, but I think they still look good, just like my shiny Bok Jo.

These Dong also have a nice glow, though there are a few which look dried:

These Sherwood look pretty good and both Sherwood trees have been surprisingly productive this year. I guess the extra-hot summer is good for jujube…

Sherwood tree (must be 16-18 feet tall…):

Norris adds a bit of a curl to the end (I just grafted Norris this spring)):

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Potted self rooted Honey Jar ripen. So scrunchy, juicy, and sweet. I have been cloning it by root cuttings and suckers.

Tony

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Root suckers won’t come true to the variety, right? Only the clone do.

@tonyOmahaz5
Your HJ ripens way ahead of mine. Mine won’t turn brown until some time in Sept.

@BobVance have your HJ ripen yet?

The potted Honey Jar will ripen way early then the inground tree. These suckers will be a clone because I took a green cutting of Honey Jar and rooted with rooting hormones. It is self rooted. I can clone it by cut some roots and stick them in the miracle gro moisture control potting mix with the cut tips just visible at the soil level. Each root will sprout out to a new tree. In addition. Once the mother got some roots cut off then it will start to suckers and these suckers are clone of the mother tree.

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My HJ is a grafted tree so root suckers from my HJ roots are not clones to HJ. They are clones to whatever the rootstock is.

I know this because I let a Sugar Cane (also grafted) root suckers grew and set fruit. They were small, tart and somewhat bitter like wild jujubes, I guess.

@BobVance ,
When I said shriveled, I mentioned this reddish/brown one (the other one fell off). Not the green Massandra.

Is that mean I should cut my HJ root suckers and throw them away.

Those next to trunk, I trimmed them. Those further away, I dug and potted them up to be used for rootstocks.

Green cutting like Tony did is a sure way to get clones.

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No, none of my jujubes have ripened yet. Based on past history, maybe in another 2-3 weeks.

I see what you mean now- it didn’t stand out to me (maybe color blindness). I get a lot of those on Xu Zhou, but a bunch of other cultivars have one or two such fruit that darkens and drops early.

I took a bunch of green cuttings last summer and actually had a couple takes. But, I brought them inside (bright South window) and they gradually died over the course of the winter,

I save them for grafting. Here are 4 that I pulled up a few days ago:

8/21:

Now, 4 days later, they (the one on the far left is from last week) are a bit wilted, but at least several and maybe all of them will likely make it.
8/25:

The only ones I cut are attached to the trunk without any roots. Anything else, I just give a yank on it and see what I get. If I get some roots, I pot it up. If not, toss it aside. I feel like digging takes more time/effort, is likely to disturb even more roots, and the few times I tried weren’t very successful. If I can’t yank it by hand, I figure it is probably attached to the main root (or trunk out of my sight and fall back to cutting it as low as I can. Note that most of the above suckers were only 2-6" from the trunk of an Autumn Beauty that I decided to clean up.

I’ve got a few trees from JFaE which are on their own roots, but they have never suckered.

Honey Jar
Sugar Cane
Mango Dong (I think it is really Autumn Beauty)

Maybe I should dig around a bit and poach off a root next spring.

Raf sent me a bit of root from a Vegas Booty this spring. It took a while to get going, but is now doing pretty well. It seems to have multiple trunks, so maybe I can separate it when it is dormant and re-pot.

Vegas Booty (own roots):

I think I set back my potted plants by underwatering them. Now that I’m doing it every 1-2 days they seem to be both growing and fruiting, but they are behind the in-ground trees.

Confetti:

Empress Gee:

Black Sea (grafted this spring on a leftover root section from transplant):

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Keep up the good work.

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Bob, just dig around your Honey Jar on its own root. Find a few decent size roots and chop them off and let them be. Before you know it, they will send up a bunch of suckers from those roots.

Btw, the Bok Jo graft from this May is hold on to a few good size fruits now.

Same for Honey Jar

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Mine is overladen with fruit, so I’m hesitant to remove any roots right now. Also, why clip the root and leave it in place? Won’t you eventually need to pull the sucker (and root) up? My thought is to wait for the dormant season, cut and pull a root (rather than pulling it when I would potentially damage/break off the above-ground sucker) and then pot it up. Hopefully at that point it would send up the sucker.

I don’t worry all that much about yanking up random suckers and am ok with 50% success as there will always be more where they came from. But if I am going to effort to close a tree (not just dealing with a sucker in my lawn :slight_smile: ), I prefer a higher success rate.

Using a rather large pot would be a good idea. The grafted root sections which grew well were the ones I put into large pots (2-3gal), rather than cutting the root into multiple 6" long sections, grafting to each and putting them in quart or 1 gal pots.

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Great, your way will work fine. I forgot that you grew your self rooted Honey Jar inground and my was potted so I know for sure the suckers were from that same tree.

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It’s gotten to be a decent size, as has the Sugar Cane and Autumn Beauty. Of the 3, the Sugar Cane has the least fruit. I’ve seen Honey Jars with heavier sets, but this one isn’t bad.

Honey Jar, own roots:

I’m even happier to see a few GA-866 fruit. This is most of the fruit from the tree (other than a lot of Dae Sol Jo, some fruit from a rootstock variety, and a few Texas Tart on a new graft). Or rather, I should say this is most of the GA866 fruit. It is concentrated on a horizontal branch, though there are a few on neighboring branches. So, while it isn’t a lot, I am happy to get ANY GA866 fruit.

GA866:

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My brother wants a cutting of my fruit trees, not just jujube trees, but with plums. When should I give him something. I plant to trim my Ga-866 when it’s done fruiting. Will it work? He lives in Sunset Zone 19, not too far from me, but it’s colder and hotter than my area.

I think you are out done Raf now. He is sitting in the back seat of the jujube ride now. @jujubemulberry

Tony

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Just went to my brother’s space and he has this jujube in his yard, I first thought it’s a HJ, the same size as my HJ, but after tasting I don’t think it is, it’s not sweet and has much bigger seed than my HJ. What could it be, he bought his from Home Depot.

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Tony has rooted jujubes, but most people don’t have the same level of success. I had a couple which seemed alive a few months later, but eventually died (out of a dozen or more tries). You be much more successful grafting. I’d suggest waiting until the trees are dormant (January for you?), then taking cuttings and grafting them to his large pitted not sweet tree. Mark the grafts (make a bunch), then over the course of the next year you can cut away the parts which aren’t grafts.

Or you could cut it back more severely and only do a few grafts, but you might need to wait until spring when the bark is slipping to do bark grafts, as they are generally better when the scion’s diameter is much smaller than the host diameter. You’d still take the cuttings when everything is dormant, but would store them in a fridge in ziplocks (preferably aways from ethylene producing fruit) until spring.

Autumn Beauty on own roots (sold as Mango Dong, but the fruit looks like AB):

Sugar Cane on own roots:

I haven’t seen Raf on in a while- maybe a month or so. My jujube enthusiasm has been helped by the hot dry summer we’ve had and the jujube productivity it has spurred. Jujube would seem one fruit/crop which could actually do better with a hotter world.

I was just outside contemplating renovating a neglected area of my yard and replacing apples, (dying) plums, and gooseberries with more jujubes.

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What are you going to do with these 150 Jujube trees when they become fully mature in next 10 years? The trees can grow to 50 (H) x 50 (W) size and live to more than 100 years and produce 100 lbs of fruits per tree a year. :smile:

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