Madame Boutant pear - good tasting fruit?

Someone I’ve traded scions with for years reported his Madame boutant produced fruit. The flavor was apparently fairly good. Anyone else growing this uncommon variety? https://npgsweb.ars-grin.gov/gringlobal/accessiondetail.aspx?accid=%20PI+255614

Taxonomy:

Pyrus communis L.

Cultivar:

‘Madame Boutant’

Origin:

Developed – France

Maintained:

Natl. Germplasm Repository - Corvallis

Received by NPGS:

25 Feb 1959

PI Assigned:

1959

Improvement Status:

Cultivar

Form Received:

Plant

Inventory Volume:

167
View original Plant Inventory data in pdf format


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How did he describe the flavor? Where was it grown?

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Pretty similar to cummins description http://www.cumminsnursery.com/pear.htm. Large with an excellent flavor.

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I was reading some of the other descriptions, I sure need to get a Potomac scion next year!

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I’m growing Potomac and it’s been a good growing tree for me. They say it’s got the best flavor but that remains to be seen. I’ve read it’s as good as danjou. I’m growing it on bartlett rootstock. The parent bartlett tree had constant disease problems so I top worked it.

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Did it fruit for you this year?

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I’m going to have a few Potomac fruits this year for the first time. I’ll try to remember to report on the quality.

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Mine did not fruit this year. It will likely be a couple of years.

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Not to hijack the original thread, but here’s my Potomac tree and a few fruits from it this season (sorry for the poor focus). I think there are likely a dozen or so pears on it this year, though I’ll have to dig around some in the foliage to be sure I’m not missing a bunch. Sorry for the horizontal photos, I’m not sure how to rotate them.

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Nice looking tree, I would like to hear your thoughts on the flavor and ripening date as the season progresses!

I’ll try to remember to post when I harvest some of them, along with photos.

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I believe the mystery pear is identified as Madame boutant Unknown Pear- unique flowers
Here are other photos

It looks like I grafted Madame boutant 7 years ago Callery pear mutation

Pears are mislabeled so often and rare pears without descriptions are even worse. This was posted on another website so I’m not sure what to think! This photo differs greatly from the photo at Corvallis.

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Madame boutant or whatever it is it would seem I have 1-3 trees of which all fell victim to poor tagging that year. More pictures coming soon as 2 more large pears coming into production.

This mystery still goes on with this pear. Cummins posted this photo of madame boutant.


Originally the wood came from corvalis i.was told. The pear in my photos matches their pear photos. There is nearly no information available so it’s hard to compare this pear. They have never mislabeled anything in my experience.

I grafted a scion of Madame Boutant from Cummins this year. I think I should have done my homework! The pics from May’17 (GRIN) posting show scab - on leaves and fruit. And GRIN’s description bears this out:
|DISEASE|FRUIT_SCAB|RATING OF DAMAGE CAUSED BY FRUIT SCAB|4 - (1 = NO DAMAGE, 9 = SEVERE DAMAGE)|PYRUS.CORVALLIS.1988|||
|DISEASE|PSEUDOMONAS|RATING OF DAMAGE CAUSED BY PSEUDOMONAS|5 - (1 = NO DAMAGE, 9 = SEVERE DAMAGE)|PYRUS.CORVALLIS.1988|||

Yet your Jan 21 pic looks perfectly clear! Do you control scab with lime sulfur spray? Or perhaps, unlike western Washington, you’re luckily not in scab country!

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@cdamarjian

Yes we have only mild scab problems here due to the weather. This pear grown here we call madame boutant is a fireblight susceptible type.

Once again higher degree of problems regarding fireblight. There are very few reasons I can find to recommend this pear.

That’s sad to hear, as all my grafts from the spare scionwood @cdamarjian sent me have taken on my neighbor’s volunteer mountain ash leaning over the property line. The fruit description was so enticing!

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@swincher @cdamarjian

We can’t say with 100% certainty the wood I received is madame boutant. As I said above I question if it’s mislabeled as the pears look very different. We only know the pear shown above is not resistant to fireblight.

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